[Discuss] [Member Access] RFID Door Access.. Progress update (Action Items).

Rick Osgood EMAIL HIDDEN
Tue Dec 20 13:39:18 PST 2011


I agree with Bob that it would probably be best if EMS owned all of the
cards.  The 10 I plan on purchasing today I will be donating to EMS so I
will not own them.

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Bob Miller <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:

> Here's an idea.  Since EMS the organization controls access to the space,
> why not also have EMS also own all the key cards/fobs?  It looks like it'll
> cost under $40 to get enough for all keyholders through the next couple of
> months.
>
> That's much easier and less overhead than having everyone track down their
> own cards, tracking compatibility, etc.
>
> [I originally replied to just Rick.  Sorry, Rick.]
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>
>> I just realized that these do not qualify for Amazon Prime shipping.  I
>> guess they are still cheaper than the SparkFun badges though.  Amazon also
>> has keychain RFID tags you can get that sound like they would be compatible.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Key-Fob-RFID-Tag/dp/B005ZZBQSA/ref=lh_ni_t
>>
>> I'm going to order 10 of these cards from Amazon for the space and one of
>> the keychain type.  I'll put the order in at 2:00PM today. If anyone wants
>> to add more cards or anything to this order then let me know and we will
>> work out the payment details.  10 keys should be enough to get us started
>> at least though.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:19 AM, James Hukill <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes that is the reader
>>>
>>> --James
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think these cards might be compatible with your RFID reader James:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/RFID-Credit-Card-Tag-125kHz/dp/B005ZZ5Y88/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1324407458&sr=1-2-fkmr0
>>>
>>> Is this the reader you are using?
>>>
>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8419
>>>
>>> The RFID cards you linked to on Sparkfun use EM4001 encoding.  The cards
>>> I just linked to on Amazon are EM4102 encoding.  I found this Sparkfun
>>> forum post that makes me think the EM4102 tags are backwards compatible
>>> with EM4001 readers:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=1055&view=previous&sid=d8ef0254da035119f9cb9a207be3bc84
>>>
>>> I mention this because I have a 1 month Amazon Prime trial so I can get
>>> 2 day shipping on the Amazon tags for free I think.  I think I will order a
>>> couple of them and see if they work.  Can you just confirm what RFID reader
>>> chip you are using so I can be more confident before spending the money?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> We should probably coordinate this order so we can all save on shipping
>>>> charges.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:33 AM, James Hukill <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sample card (from Kevin) did not work with our reader.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got the door striker in the mail today so I would suggest everyone
>>>>> that would like RFID access order one asap.
>>>>>
>>>>> --James
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Kevin King <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wait a few days before purchasing any RFID badges.  I have asked the
>>>>>> Risk department at my work if I could have (or if needed purchase) the old
>>>>>> RFID badges and badge printer.  Earlier this year we moved from cards to
>>>>>> fobs and no longer need these.  They are looking into it and hopefully will
>>>>>> give me an answer soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Kevin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* Ben Hallert - Vipmail <EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>> *To:* James Hukill <EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>> *Cc:* "EMAIL HIDDEN" <EMAIL HIDDEN>;
>>>>>> Ellery Weber <EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wed, December 14, 2011 12:45:43 PM
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Discuss] [Member Access] RFID Door Access.. Progress
>>>>>> update (Action Items).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I live that they say 'don't implant it!' but one of the lusted
>>>>>> features is 'implantable'.  Make up your mind, guys!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Ben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:34 PM, James Hukill <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL  .. Wrong, no.. I am thinking of doing it regardless of their
>>>>>> warnings...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Ellery Weber <
>>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is it wrong of me to really want one of these? lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9416
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- Ellery Weber
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:59 PM, James Hukill <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We (Ben, Dirk, Laura, and myself) are quickly making progress
>>>>>>>> and foresee having it* done well before the end of the year.  What we wont'
>>>>>>>> have is enough cards purchased for everyone.  The parts we had on hand to
>>>>>>>> make entry easy and work quickly and cheaply.  The cheapest and easiest way
>>>>>>>> to get them is from SparkFun.com, which is where the reader came
>>>>>>>> from.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would suggest groups of people go in together to save on shipping
>>>>>>>> and handeling (oh how I was just so recently bit by Digi-Key)...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1 Card($1.95):
>>>>>>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10169
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5 Card Pack($9.95):
>>>>>>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10436
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1 Button($3.95):
>>>>>>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9417
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *It being a RFID reader to do a lookup of known good cards and then
>>>>>>>> open a fail closed electric door striker plate.  No physical "key" will
>>>>>>>> be necessary for members.  As time moves on and we get more hardware we can
>>>>>>>> expand the system to support other methods of entry.  The goal
>>>>>>>> today is to get members in as quickly and as cheaply (equipment cost) as we
>>>>>>>> can while not lowering our security posture in the process.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --James
>>>>>>>>
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