[Discuss] [Member Access] RFID Door Access.. Progress update (Action Items).

Ellery Weber EMAIL HIDDEN
Tue Dec 20 14:00:00 PST 2011


Great idea, bob!
On Dec 20, 2011 1:39 PM, "Rick Osgood" <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:

> I agree with Bob that it would probably be best if EMS owned all of the
> cards.  The 10 I plan on purchasing today I will be donating to EMS so I
> will not own them.
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Bob Miller <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>
>> Here's an idea.  Since EMS the organization controls access to the space,
>> why not also have EMS also own all the key cards/fobs?  It looks like
>> it'll
>> cost under $40 to get enough for all keyholders through the next couple of
>> months.
>>
>> That's much easier and less overhead than having everyone track down their
>> own cards, tracking compatibility, etc.
>>
>> [I originally replied to just Rick.  Sorry, Rick.]
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>>
>>> I just realized that these do not qualify for Amazon Prime shipping.  I
>>> guess they are still cheaper than the SparkFun badges though.  Amazon also
>>> has keychain RFID tags you can get that sound like they would be compatible.
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Key-Fob-RFID-Tag/dp/B005ZZBQSA/ref=lh_ni_t
>>>
>>> I'm going to order 10 of these cards from Amazon for the space and one
>>> of the keychain type.  I'll put the order in at 2:00PM today. If anyone
>>> wants to add more cards or anything to this order then let me know and we
>>> will work out the payment details.  10 keys should be enough to get us
>>> started at least though.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:19 AM, James Hukill <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes that is the reader
>>>>
>>>> --James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think these cards might be compatible with your RFID reader James:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/RFID-Credit-Card-Tag-125kHz/dp/B005ZZ5Y88/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1324407458&sr=1-2-fkmr0
>>>>
>>>> Is this the reader you are using?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8419
>>>>
>>>> The RFID cards you linked to on Sparkfun use EM4001 encoding.  The
>>>> cards I just linked to on Amazon are EM4102 encoding.  I found this
>>>> Sparkfun forum post that makes me think the EM4102 tags are backwards
>>>> compatible with EM4001 readers:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=1055&view=previous&sid=d8ef0254da035119f9cb9a207be3bc84
>>>>
>>>> I mention this because I have a 1 month Amazon Prime trial so I can get
>>>> 2 day shipping on the Amazon tags for free I think.  I think I will order a
>>>> couple of them and see if they work.  Can you just confirm what RFID reader
>>>> chip you are using so I can be more confident before spending the money?
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Rick Osgood <
>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We should probably coordinate this order so we can all save on
>>>>> shipping charges.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:33 AM, James Hukill <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sample card (from Kevin) did not work with our reader.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got the door striker in the mail today so I would suggest everyone
>>>>>> that would like RFID access order one asap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Kevin King <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wait a few days before purchasing any RFID badges.  I have asked the
>>>>>>> Risk department at my work if I could have (or if needed purchase) the old
>>>>>>> RFID badges and badge printer.  Earlier this year we moved from cards to
>>>>>>> fobs and no longer need these.  They are looking into it and hopefully will
>>>>>>> give me an answer soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Kevin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> *From:* Ben Hallert - Vipmail <EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>>> *To:* James Hukill <EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>>> *Cc:* "EMAIL HIDDEN" <EMAIL HIDDEN>;
>>>>>>> Ellery Weber <EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wed, December 14, 2011 12:45:43 PM
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Discuss] [Member Access] RFID Door Access..
>>>>>>> Progress update (Action Items).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I live that they say 'don't implant it!' but one of the lusted
>>>>>>> features is 'implantable'.  Make up your mind, guys!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Ben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:34 PM, James Hukill <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL  .. Wrong, no.. I am thinking of doing it regardless of their
>>>>>>> warnings...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Ellery Weber <
>>>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is it wrong of me to really want one of these? lol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9416
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- Ellery Weber
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:59 PM, James Hukill <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We (Ben, Dirk, Laura, and myself) are quickly making progress
>>>>>>>>> and foresee having it* done well before the end of the year.  What we wont'
>>>>>>>>> have is enough cards purchased for everyone.  The parts we had on hand to
>>>>>>>>> make entry easy and work quickly and cheaply.  The cheapest and easiest way
>>>>>>>>> to get them is from SparkFun.com, which is where the reader came
>>>>>>>>> from.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would suggest groups of people go in together to save on
>>>>>>>>> shipping and handeling (oh how I was just so recently bit by Digi-Key)...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1 Card($1.95):
>>>>>>>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10169
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 5 Card Pack($9.95):
>>>>>>>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10436
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1 Button($3.95):
>>>>>>>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9417
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *It being a RFID reader to do a lookup of known good cards and
>>>>>>>>> then open a fail closed electric door striker plate.  No physical "key"
>>>>>>>>> will be necessary for members.  As time moves on and we get more hardware
>>>>>>>>> we can expand the system to support other methods of entry.  The
>>>>>>>>> goal today is to get members in as quickly and as cheaply (equipment cost)
>>>>>>>>> as we can while not lowering our security posture in the process.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --James
>>>>>>>>>
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