[EMS Discuss] Shop Clean Up Discussion

Fri Aug 10 11:47:12 PDT 2012

I think James had the idea to get rid of the desk on the east side of the
shop.  The one underneath the wire shelf.  The desk that has the cabinet on
top of it.  That desk doesn't really get used for anything other than
people putting random crap on it, so getting rid of it won't really remove
valuable work space, but it will create more usable space for something
more useful.  I thought it was a good idea.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:

> The shelves with the big bins were already designated as member storage.
>  Or at least that's what I thought.  Members have been taking a bin and
> labeling them so people know to not touch that stuff.  However, this was
> sort of unofficially decided and I bet many people do not know this.
> I agree that we should be trying to leave the workbench cleaner then when
> you found it.  I'm not sure I want to have to put up signs of that nature
> but a reminder is nice.  I think the main reason this isn't happening right
> now is that no one really knows where to put stuff when they are done with
> it.  If we can come up with a good solution to organize shared tools and
> maybe label the place where certain tools should go it will help.
> I need to get rid of a bunch of old projects that are taking up space,
> like the tesla coil, electric chair, etc.  They are nice to have around for
> events but they just take up too much space.  I plan to do this in the
> upcoming weeks.  I think it was Bob that had an idea the other day to maybe
> take photos of those larger projects to put up on the wall.  That way
> people can still see what we have accomplished but it won't take up a ton
> of space.
> Another idea might be to have a tear-down night where we just take apart
> all the old electronic junk we don't want and keep the usable parts.  We
> can stick the parts on that Norvac shelf and then throw away all the
> plastic casing and PCBs that take up all the room.  This would probably end
> up being a recurring event every few months as our junk pile grows.  I know
> HeatSync Labs does this occasionally and they seem to be able to make a fun
> night of it.  It's easy for people to do and they get to see the insides of
> some stuff that they never would have thought they would see.
> Rick
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Bob Miller <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>> Here are a couple of ideas.
>> How about designating the shelves by the overhead door as member
>> storage?  We can all store our personal stuff there, so long as it is
>> clearly
>> labeled with our names.  Anything not in those shelves is club property
>> by default.  A small sign reading "Members' property.  Please put your
>> name on your stuff" would make it clear.
>> Similarly, for the shelving unit against the back wall, how about a small
>> sign
>> reading "Tools for member use"?  And maybe one of us could go through
>> it and organize it a little.
>> I volunteer to make those signs unless we get a better idea...
>> I'd also volunteer to make a sign for the main workbench reading,
>> "Please leave this area cleaner than you found it," but I think I'm
>> just being bitchy about that.
>> There are some big projects that won't fit in the shelves.  Rick and the
>> late
>> Ellery's vacuum former for example, and Jeff's woodworking project du
>> jour.
>> Once again, I think the solution is to put your name on your stuff.  Then
>> everyone else knows it's not junk and not club property.
>> Do we need some Avery labels preprinted with "This stuff belongs to: "?
>> Say the word and I'll print some.
>> Completed projects:  Some of them are really cool.  Some are less so.
>> Some are really small and out of the way, and some take up way too
>> much space.  Not to pick on Rick, but his potato cannon is a clear
>> example of cool and not much space.  And not to pick on Rick, but
>> his wooden chair is an example of the opposite.
>> Could we maybe designate some space on the wall and/or one table
>> as the cool artifact gallery?  Come up with some way to get newly
>> completed stuff into the gallery and formerly cool stuff back into
>> its owner's garage and/or the dumpster?
>> For stuff that isn't member property, we need to cull it ruthlessly.
>> To the dump with it!  (or to NextStep.)
>> If we can get some clutter out, we can think about rearranging the
>> space to be more usable, social, and pleasant to use.  James has
>> some ideas on that...
>> I also want to get some high tech tools into our shop.  But aside from
>> the 3D printer(s), it's clear that that's a long term project.  (Ask me
>> in person when you want to hear laser cutter tales.)
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>
>> wrote:
>> > The other thread is trying to figure out when to do the clean up day.  I
>> > wanted to make another thread to talk about ideas for how to re-arrange
>> the
>> > shop to make it better, or maybe to "rules" to help keep the shop
>> cleaner.
>> > This way if members can't make it to a clean up party they can still
>> have
>> > some input as to how things work.
>> >
>> > We need to know things like, how much space can member projects take
>> up, and
>> > for how long?
>> >
>> > What things can we safely throw away without someone getting angry?
>>  There's
>> > tons of crap up in the pick-a-part and that's the whole point.  But
>> maybe
>> > we've gone beyond what we should have and we need to get rid of some
>> stuff?
>> > Or maybe we just need to re-organize?  What about extra furniture at the
>> > shop?  Can we just get rid of some if we don't need it?
>> >
>> > Member tools at the shop.  There are a lot of tools stored in tool
>> boxes and
>> > stuff but if we get them out on the tool wall above the work bench
>> people
>> > will know what's available and know they can use it.  Is that okay?
>> >
>> >
>> > What are other ideas or thoughts that everyone has?
>> >
>> > Rick
>> >
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>> Bob Miller                              K<bob>
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