[EMS Discuss] Red Bull Creation Ideas

Benjamin Hallert EMAIL HIDDEN
Mon Apr 15 10:32:42 PDT 2013


Those are both awesome.  I really like the competitive face to face mechanical targets game (#1).  That could lead to some fun frenetic competition.


Could the LED strip indicate how many targets each person has in a diet of visual tug o war style display?  
- Ben

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>
wrote:

> Craig had a cool idea for the target shooting range on Saturday.  What if
> you had one player on each side of the board facing each other?  Then when
> a player shoots the target, the servo spins the target around to face the
> other player.  The object is to make all of the targets face the other
> player.  Whoever gets all the targets to face the other player at the same
> time wins. Or when the time runs out, whoever has less targets left to
> shoot wins.  This would make the physical rotation of the targets more an
> integral part of the experience, rather than just for flair.
> Another version of this same idea would be if the players were on the same
> side of the board and we used color changing targets instead of the
> rotating targets.  The targets could just change colors when you shot them.
>  The idea would be to make them all light up your own color to "own" the
> target board.  If you shoot your own target after you already tag it with
> your color, it changes back to the other player's color so that's how you
> are penalized for hitting the wrong target.  So when you are in the lead,
> more targets (and therefore more of the board) is lit up your own color.
>  The downside to this version of the idea is that it gets rid of the cool
> retro-mechanical aspect of the rotating targets.  But it does directly
> involve the "light" aspect of the competition which is nice.
> I thought they were both neat versions of the same basic idea and I was
> curious what other people thought.
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Weston Turner <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>> Or irrelevant music...
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 11, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>
>> wrote:
>>
>> If we wanted to go with the bike idea, we might be able to build the thing
>> into a tow-able bike trailer.  Then maybe Greg would be willing to tow it
>> around with his Boombox Bike blasting some kind of relevant music?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>>
>>> I just realized that the laser target shooting idea I thought I came up
>>> with was already proposed by Mark like a full day before I proposed it.
>>>  Great minds think alike I guess?  I've gone back through all the ideas and
>>> compiled a quick list so we can quickly recall what we've already come up
>>> with for whenever we meet.  We've got a ton of ideas already but the more
>>> the merrier!
>>>
>>> - GladOS Light
>>> - DDR pad
>>> - Backwards lit walkway
>>> - Road luge lighting
>>> - Laser Cannons
>>> - Laser tag
>>> - Mount in building windows
>>> - laser pointer + projector graffiti
>>> - zoetrope
>>> - zoetrope + POV display
>>> - Laser shooting gallery
>>> - Air-based display - updated via twitter/other
>>> - Tug of war concept
>>> - Pyrophone
>>> - Huge pong game
>>> - Skinner Butte "O"
>>> - Harlem Shake bot
>>> - Built into a bike/trike
>>> - Impromptu performance spotlight
>>> - Something that goes fast
>>>
>>> I think that's everything we've discussed so far.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Tom Conlin <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Personally I am far more motivated by bikes than football.
>>>>
>>>> As it was I was psyching my self up to just hold my nose and do it
>>>> should it turn out I was the best person for some task on the
>>>> commercial sports worship angle.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/10/2013 03:26 PM, Rick Osgood wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What if our device is built onto some kind of huge bicycle contraption?
>>>>>   That seems pretty Eugene.  Also, we could then drive it around
>>>>> downtown in busy areas at night like perhaps the barmuda triangle area.
>>>>>   We'd be sure to get some interesting reactions that way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Taper Wickel <EMAIL HIDDEN
>>>>> <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     I've got a DMX interface board for arduino, should we go that way.
>>>>>
>>>>>     --
>>>>>     Taper Wickel <EMAIL HIDDEN <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Apr 9, 2013 1:46 PM, <EMAIL HIDDEN <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Ideas along these lines have the advantage that a member is
>>>>>         already working on Arduino control of a laser light show
>>>>>         module.  However, the module is professional equipment and may
>>>>>         already have a DMX interface.  Of course, he may or may
>>>>>         not care to lend it.  Greg?
>>>>>
>>>>>         -Darrell
>>>>>
>>>>>          > The video mentions a DMX output, which would allow us to run
>>>>>          > theatrical/concert style lighting.  Most interesting is
>>>>>         intelligent
>>>>>          > lighting, meaning light fixtures with moving heads, changing
>>>>>         colors,
>>>>>          > gobos, etc.  These are expensive lighting fixtures, but they
>>>>>         can be
>>>>>          > rented or probably even borrowed.  Off the shelf lighting
>>>>>         isn't a cool
>>>>>          > as home made, but could be used as a component of something
>>>>> cool.
>>>>>          >
>>>>>          > How about a huge pong game?  I'm thinking about a motion
>>>>>         controlled
>>>>>          > spotlight from a building, bridge, or top of a grandstand at
>>>>>         a football
>>>>>          > field.  On the ground are two people or teams with physical
>>>>>         paddles they
>>>>>          > move to try to bounce the light back and forth.  Since the
>>>>>         paddles would
>>>>>          > only move in one dimension, we could do something as simple
>>>>>         putting
>>>>>          > wheels on the bottom and counting revolutions to get the
>>>>> position
>>>>>          > feedback.  The spotlight can change colors or even the
>>>>>         lighting pattern
>>>>>          > in case of a miss.  To make use of the RGB drivers on the Red
>>>>>         Bull
>>>>>          > board, there could be LED strips on the top of the paddles
>>>>>         that interact
>>>>>          > with the ball, along with a 7 segment display on each paddle
>>>>>         for showing
>>>>>          > the score.  I have a little PA system for all the sound
>>>>>         effects, and the
>>>>>          > included Red Bull MP3 on the board might be appropriate as
>>>>> the
>>>>>          > background music. It would be big, relatively simple, fun to
>>>>>         play, and
>>>>>          > look cool at night.
>>>>>          >
>>>>>          > Craig
>>>>>          >
>>>>>          >
>>>>>          > On 4/9/2013 12:12 PM, Scott wrote:
>>>>>          >> I like the side of the building thing for public display.
>>>>>          >> Could we make an air based display - reader board.  Think of
>>>>>         tweeter feed?  Small version of Fremont street?
>>>>>          >>
>>>>>          >> Having a way for spectators to to ... Tweet, change design,
>>>>>         ...  Predict/post score at a duck (baseball) game.
>>>>>          >> (Might help from a funding manner?)
>>>>>          >> If we are thinking big.
>>>>>          >>
>>>>>          >> That or find some other event who we can pimp/use for mutual
>>>>>         benefit on publicity end.
>>>>>          >>
>>>>>          >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>          >>
>>>>>          >> On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Bob Miller <EMAIL HIDDEN
>>>>>         <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>> wrote:
>>>>>          >>
>>>>>          >>> In last year's contest, the judges definitely preferred
>>>>>          >>> high-testosterone entries.  How about something involving
>>>>>         extreme
>>>>>          >>> sports or weapons?
>>>>>          >>>
>>>>>          >>> Road luge lighting?
>>>>>          >>> Laser cannons (or other death rays)?
>>>>>          >>> Some variant on laser tag?
>>>>>          >>>
>>>>>          >>>
>>>>>          >>>
>>>>>          >>>
>>>>>          >>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Rick Osgood
>>>>>         <EMAIL HIDDEN <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN**>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>          >>>> What about a long walkway in a dark area lit up with many
>>>>>         lights all in a
>>>>>          >>>> row.  I'm imagining lights all illuminating the path from
>>>>>         above.  The catch
>>>>>          >>>> is, as soon as you step into the path it goes dark and it
>>>>>         only lights up
>>>>>          >>>> behind you as you move forward instead of in front of you.
>>>>>           Mocking you.
>>>>>          >>>>
>>>>>          >>>>
>>>>>          >>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Benjamin Hallert
>>>>>         <EMAIL HIDDEN <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>> wrote:
>>>>>          >>>>> Screen-less DDR pad that signals which squares you'll
>>>>>         need to dance on
>>>>>          >>>>> ahead of time with light.  Pad illuminates when you need
>>>>>         to step on square
>>>>>          >>>>> but also has some sort of pre-step warning light per
>>>>>         square etc.
>>>>>          >>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>> —
>>>>>          >>>>> Sent from Mailbox for iPhone
>>>>>          >>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Benjamin Hallert
>>>>>         <EMAIL HIDDEN <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>> wrote:
>>>>>          >>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>          >>>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>>> Big articulated arm that attaches to a lamp post and
>>>>>         folds up when
>>>>>          >>>>>> inactive.  At night: When someone gets near, it unfolds,
>>>>>         shines a spotlight
>>>>>          >>>>>> at their feet to light the way and shouts encouragement
>>>>>         to them.  "You can
>>>>>          >>>>>> do it!"  "No need to slip and fall today!"  "Watch your
>>>>>         step, drunky!  Just
>>>>>          >>>>>> kidding; my circuits cannot reliably determine your
>>>>>         current level of
>>>>>          >>>>>> drunkennes", etc.  I envision something kinda like
>>>>>         GladOS from Portal almost
>>>>>          >>>>>> except 60% less homicidal.   Arduino as interface to
>>>>>         hardware like motion
>>>>>          >>>>>> detectors, maybe camera based person tracking using
>>>>>         Raspberry pi.
>>>>>          >>>>>> —
>>>>>          >>>>>> Sent from Mailbox for iPhone
>>>>>          >>>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Rick Osgood
>>>>>         <EMAIL HIDDEN <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN**>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>          >>>>>>> Well I got at least 5 responses back saying people
>>>>>         wanted to be a part
>>>>>          >>>>>>> of this.  I figured we could start brainstorming ideas.
>>>>>           That way if we do
>>>>>          >>>>>>> get picked to participate in the qualifier we will
>>>>>         already be a few steps
>>>>>          >>>>>>> ahead.
>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>>>> Here are the main things we will want to think about:
>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>>>> 1. We must use interactive lighting to create something
>>>>>         awesome.
>>>>>          >>>>>>> 2. We get bonus points for creatively displaying our
>>>>>         creation in a
>>>>>          >>>>>>> public space.
>>>>>          >>>>>>> 3. We have to include their Red Bull circuit board
>>>>> somehow.
>>>>>          >>>>>>>           a. The board is Arduino Compatible
>>>>>          >>>>>>>           b. The board contains a tri-axis
>>>>>         accelerometer and a
>>>>>          >>>>>>> temperature control sensor. Maybe more?
>>>>>          >>>>>>> 4. We can use whatever other hardware we want.
>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>>>> Right off the top of my head I've had a few really
>>>>>         basic ideas that have
>>>>>          >>>>>>> been getting my creative juices flowing:
>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>>>> Lighting: LED strips? LEDs, lasers, projector, halogen
>>>>>         bulbs?
>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>>>> Display: Mount to a huge tethered weather balloon high
>>>>>         over Eugene? Hang
>>>>>          >>>>>>> or temporarily mount to a bridge in town?  We know some
>>>>>         pilots... can we
>>>>>          >>>>>>> somehow display it from a plane in flight?  Project
>>>>>         onto the side of a
>>>>>          >>>>>>> building?
>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>          >>>>>>> What other crazy ideas can we come up with, keeping in
>>>>>         mind all the
>>>>>          >>>>>>> guidelines above?
>>>>>          >>>>
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