[EMS Discuss] Red Bull Creation Ideas

Hovis Biddle EMAIL HIDDEN
Mon Apr 15 10:47:24 PDT 2013


I think the visual tug of war is a great idea!

Considering that we're making a game; should we add adafruit's coin slot
and a charity?
On Apr 15, 2013 10:32 AM, "Benjamin Hallert" <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:

> Those are both awesome.  I really like the competitive face to face
> mechanical targets game (#1).  That could lead to some fun frenetic
> competition.
>
> Could the LED strip indicate how many targets each person has in a diet of
> visual tug o war style display?
> - Ben
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>
>> Craig had a cool idea for the target shooting range on Saturday.  What if
>> you had one player on each side of the board facing each other?  Then when
>> a player shoots the target, the servo spins the target around to face the
>> other player.  The object is to make all of the targets face the other
>> player.  Whoever gets all the targets to face the other player at the same
>> time wins. Or when the time runs out, whoever has less targets left to
>> shoot wins.  This would make the physical rotation of the targets more an
>> integral part of the experience, rather than just for flair.
>>
>> Another version of this same idea would be if the players were on the
>> same side of the board and we used color changing targets instead of the
>> rotating targets.  The targets could just change colors when you shot them.
>>  The idea would be to make them all light up your own color to "own" the
>> target board.  If you shoot your own target after you already tag it with
>> your color, it changes back to the other player's color so that's how you
>> are penalized for hitting the wrong target.  So when you are in the lead,
>> more targets (and therefore more of the board) is lit up your own color.
>>  The downside to this version of the idea is that it gets rid of the cool
>> retro-mechanical aspect of the rotating targets.  But it does directly
>> involve the "light" aspect of the competition which is nice.
>>
>> I thought they were both neat versions of the same basic idea and I was
>> curious what other people thought.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Weston Turner <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>>
>>> Or irrelevant music...
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 11, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If we wanted to go with the bike idea, we might be able to build the
>>> thing into a tow-able bike trailer.  Then maybe Greg would be willing to
>>> tow it around with his Boombox Bike blasting some kind of relevant music?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just realized that the laser target shooting idea I thought I came up
>>>> with was already proposed by Mark like a full day before I proposed it.
>>>>  Great minds think alike I guess?  I've gone back through all the ideas and
>>>> compiled a quick list so we can quickly recall what we've already come up
>>>> with for whenever we meet.  We've got a ton of ideas already but the more
>>>> the merrier!
>>>>
>>>> - GladOS Light
>>>> - DDR pad
>>>> - Backwards lit walkway
>>>> - Road luge lighting
>>>> - Laser Cannons
>>>> - Laser tag
>>>> - Mount in building windows
>>>> - laser pointer + projector graffiti
>>>> - zoetrope
>>>> - zoetrope + POV display
>>>> - Laser shooting gallery
>>>> - Air-based display - updated via twitter/other
>>>> - Tug of war concept
>>>> - Pyrophone
>>>> - Huge pong game
>>>> - Skinner Butte "O"
>>>> - Harlem Shake bot
>>>> - Built into a bike/trike
>>>> - Impromptu performance spotlight
>>>> - Something that goes fast
>>>>
>>>> I think that's everything we've discussed so far.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Tom Conlin <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I am far more motivated by bikes than football.
>>>>>
>>>>> As it was I was psyching my self up to just hold my nose and do it
>>>>> should it turn out I was the best person for some task on the
>>>>> commercial sports worship angle.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/10/2013 03:26 PM, Rick Osgood wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What if our device is built onto some kind of huge bicycle
>>>>>> contraption?
>>>>>>   That seems pretty Eugene.  Also, we could then drive it around
>>>>>> downtown in busy areas at night like perhaps the barmuda triangle
>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>   We'd be sure to get some interesting reactions that way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Taper Wickel <EMAIL HIDDEN
>>>>>> <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I've got a DMX interface board for arduino, should we go that way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     --
>>>>>>     Taper Wickel <EMAIL HIDDEN <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On Apr 9, 2013 1:46 PM, <EMAIL HIDDEN <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Ideas along these lines have the advantage that a member is
>>>>>>         already working on Arduino control of a laser light show
>>>>>>         module.  However, the module is professional equipment and may
>>>>>>         already have a DMX interface.  Of course, he may or may
>>>>>>         not care to lend it.  Greg?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         -Darrell
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          > The video mentions a DMX output, which would allow us to
>>>>>> run
>>>>>>          > theatrical/concert style lighting.  Most interesting is
>>>>>>         intelligent
>>>>>>          > lighting, meaning light fixtures with moving heads,
>>>>>> changing
>>>>>>         colors,
>>>>>>          > gobos, etc.  These are expensive lighting fixtures, but
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>         can be
>>>>>>          > rented or probably even borrowed.  Off the shelf lighting
>>>>>>         isn't a cool
>>>>>>          > as home made, but could be used as a component of
>>>>>> something cool.
>>>>>>          >
>>>>>>          > How about a huge pong game?  I'm thinking about a motion
>>>>>>         controlled
>>>>>>          > spotlight from a building, bridge, or top of a grandstand
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>         a football
>>>>>>          > field.  On the ground are two people or teams with physical
>>>>>>         paddles they
>>>>>>          > move to try to bounce the light back and forth.  Since the
>>>>>>         paddles would
>>>>>>          > only move in one dimension, we could do something as simple
>>>>>>         putting
>>>>>>          > wheels on the bottom and counting revolutions to get the
>>>>>> position
>>>>>>          > feedback.  The spotlight can change colors or even the
>>>>>>         lighting pattern
>>>>>>          > in case of a miss.  To make use of the RGB drivers on the
>>>>>> Red
>>>>>>         Bull
>>>>>>          > board, there could be LED strips on the top of the paddles
>>>>>>         that interact
>>>>>>          > with the ball, along with a 7 segment display on each
>>>>>> paddle
>>>>>>         for showing
>>>>>>          > the score.  I have a little PA system for all the sound
>>>>>>         effects, and the
>>>>>>          > included Red Bull MP3 on the board might be appropriate as
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>          > background music. It would be big, relatively simple, fun
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>         play, and
>>>>>>          > look cool at night.
>>>>>>          >
>>>>>>          > Craig
>>>>>>          >
>>>>>>          >
>>>>>>          > On 4/9/2013 12:12 PM, Scott wrote:
>>>>>>          >> I like the side of the building thing for public display.
>>>>>>          >> Could we make an air based display - reader board.  Think
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>         tweeter feed?  Small version of Fremont street?
>>>>>>          >>
>>>>>>          >> Having a way for spectators to to ... Tweet, change
>>>>>> design,
>>>>>>         ...  Predict/post score at a duck (baseball) game.
>>>>>>          >> (Might help from a funding manner?)
>>>>>>          >> If we are thinking big.
>>>>>>          >>
>>>>>>          >> That or find some other event who we can pimp/use for
>>>>>> mutual
>>>>>>         benefit on publicity end.
>>>>>>          >>
>>>>>>          >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>          >>
>>>>>>          >> On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Bob Miller <
>>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN
>>>>>>         <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>> wrote:
>>>>>>          >>
>>>>>>          >>> In last year's contest, the judges definitely preferred
>>>>>>          >>> high-testosterone entries.  How about something involving
>>>>>>         extreme
>>>>>>          >>> sports or weapons?
>>>>>>          >>>
>>>>>>          >>> Road luge lighting?
>>>>>>          >>> Laser cannons (or other death rays)?
>>>>>>          >>> Some variant on laser tag?
>>>>>>          >>>
>>>>>>          >>>
>>>>>>          >>>
>>>>>>          >>>
>>>>>>          >>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Rick Osgood
>>>>>>         <EMAIL HIDDEN <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN**>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>          >>>> What about a long walkway in a dark area lit up with
>>>>>> many
>>>>>>         lights all in a
>>>>>>          >>>> row.  I'm imagining lights all illuminating the path
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>         above.  The catch
>>>>>>          >>>> is, as soon as you step into the path it goes dark and
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>         only lights up
>>>>>>          >>>> behind you as you move forward instead of in front of
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>           Mocking you.
>>>>>>          >>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>
>>>>>>          >>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Benjamin Hallert
>>>>>>         <EMAIL HIDDEN <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>> wrote:
>>>>>>          >>>>> Screen-less DDR pad that signals which squares you'll
>>>>>>         need to dance on
>>>>>>          >>>>> ahead of time with light.  Pad illuminates when you
>>>>>> need
>>>>>>         to step on square
>>>>>>          >>>>> but also has some sort of pre-step warning light per
>>>>>>         square etc.
>>>>>>          >>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>> —
>>>>>>          >>>>> Sent from Mailbox for iPhone
>>>>>>          >>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Benjamin Hallert
>>>>>>         <EMAIL HIDDEN <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>> wrote:
>>>>>>          >>>>>> Idea:
>>>>>>          >>>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>>> Big articulated arm that attaches to a lamp post and
>>>>>>         folds up when
>>>>>>          >>>>>> inactive.  At night: When someone gets near, it
>>>>>> unfolds,
>>>>>>         shines a spotlight
>>>>>>          >>>>>> at their feet to light the way and shouts
>>>>>> encouragement
>>>>>>         to them.  "You can
>>>>>>          >>>>>> do it!"  "No need to slip and fall today!"  "Watch
>>>>>> your
>>>>>>         step, drunky!  Just
>>>>>>          >>>>>> kidding; my circuits cannot reliably determine your
>>>>>>         current level of
>>>>>>          >>>>>> drunkennes", etc.  I envision something kinda like
>>>>>>         GladOS from Portal almost
>>>>>>          >>>>>> except 60% less homicidal.   Arduino as interface to
>>>>>>         hardware like motion
>>>>>>          >>>>>> detectors, maybe camera based person tracking using
>>>>>>         Raspberry pi.
>>>>>>          >>>>>> —
>>>>>>          >>>>>> Sent from Mailbox for iPhone
>>>>>>          >>>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Rick Osgood
>>>>>>         <EMAIL HIDDEN <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN**>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> Well I got at least 5 responses back saying people
>>>>>>         wanted to be a part
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> of this.  I figured we could start brainstorming
>>>>>> ideas.
>>>>>>           That way if we do
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> get picked to participate in the qualifier we will
>>>>>>         already be a few steps
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> ahead.
>>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> Here are the main things we will want to think about:
>>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> 1. We must use interactive lighting to create
>>>>>> something
>>>>>>         awesome.
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> 2. We get bonus points for creatively displaying our
>>>>>>         creation in a
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> public space.
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> 3. We have to include their Red Bull circuit board
>>>>>> somehow.
>>>>>>          >>>>>>>           a. The board is Arduino Compatible
>>>>>>          >>>>>>>           b. The board contains a tri-axis
>>>>>>         accelerometer and a
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> temperature control sensor. Maybe more?
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> 4. We can use whatever other hardware we want.
>>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> Right off the top of my head I've had a few really
>>>>>>         basic ideas that have
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> been getting my creative juices flowing:
>>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> Lighting: LED strips? LEDs, lasers, projector,
>>>>>> halogen
>>>>>>         bulbs?
>>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> Display: Mount to a huge tethered weather balloon
>>>>>> high
>>>>>>         over Eugene? Hang
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> or temporarily mount to a bridge in town?  We know
>>>>>> some
>>>>>>         pilots... can we
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> somehow display it from a plane in flight?  Project
>>>>>>         onto the side of a
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> building?
>>>>>>          >>>>>>>
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> What other crazy ideas can we come up with, keeping
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>         mind all the
>>>>>>          >>>>>>> guidelines above?
>>>>>>          >>>>
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