[EMS Discuss] nominatively deterministic? ya baby

Bob Miller EMAIL HIDDEN
Tue Nov 12 16:19:00 PST 2013


Rogue Hack Lab is later.

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Mark Danburg-Wyld
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> Not just "nominatively deterministic", mind you, but "wonderfully" so.
> Someone was very tongue in cheek about the naming of the organization,
> and/or the naming of all hackerspaces. And are we sure we're still Oregon's
> latest? Seems like a temporally dubious assertion.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Taper Wickel <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>
>> My (immediate upon first reading the description) interpretation was that
>> "nominally deterministic" was a cheeky way of saying "exactly what it says
>> on the tin."  It's a makerspace, and it's in Eugene, hence the name.
>>
>> That said, we probably do need a better quick description.
>>
>> --
>> Taper Wickel <EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2013 2:16 PM, "Greg Norman" <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm obviously coming to this topic late and there was
>>> probably a fair amount of nominatively deterministic debate
>>> that came to this finished product but I could be wrong.
>>>
>>> My point is the first sentence on the About page on our web
>>> page says:
>>> Eugene Makerspace is Oregon's latest & wonderfully
>>> nominatively deterministic hackerspace.
>>>
>>> I have attempted to paste this paragraph into various places
>>> to describe ourselves to others and always end up deleting
>>> it. While my conversations at the EMS bring to mind at least
>>> a dozen that would come to this anagnorisis at the drop of a
>>> chapeau? Anyway, after checking some online dictionaries I
>>> found some interesting entries to chew on. I really don't
>>> care to change it but what I'm really concerned about is if
>>> it will fit on a T-shirt?
>>>
>>> From some online dictionaries:
>>>
>>> In philosophy Determinism is a philosophical position
>>> stating that for everything that happens there are
>>> conditions such that, given those conditions, nothing else
>>> could happen.
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> A deterministic system is a system in which no randomness is
>>> involved in the development of future states of the
>>> system.[1] A deterministic model will thus always produce
>>> the same output from a given starting condition or initial
>>> state.[2]
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> In computer science, a deterministic algorithm is an
>>> algorithm which, given a particular input, will always
>>> produce the same output, with the underlying machine always
>>> passing through the same sequence of states.
>>>
>>> To me "nomitivelly" as in a democratic decision making
>>> process and "deterministic" together seem to be a bit of a
>>> non sequitur but they are both definitely wonderful and I
>>> still think it would make a great T-shirt!
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