[EMS Discuss] Whiteaker Shop Space for new Maker Space
Fri Oct 4 09:06:28 PDT 2013
We could get large funds moving fast by promoting the space well, & that we
are moving to a new location. And offering a discounted membership, new
and old members. Like $250 for the first year if you pay in full right
then. Instead of $300. That would give us cash flow to through at the new
place repairs. And hope that by the time that $50 we lost in membership
fees matters we have more members, because we have a larger more usable
We need a larger space to attract new members, but we need new members to
fund the new space.
Wood stove aside, gas, electric, or whatever we need is still an option.
EMS ponchos would be great.
I just see a lot of potential in this space that we could really take
We also need to consider harder on grants and sponsorships. We could have
the "Herman Miller" Conference Room. The "Ninkasi" Lounge Loft. "Jerry's
Home Improvement" Wood Shop. "Aprovecho" Wood Stove. "Symantec" Bathroom
"Arcimoto" Garage Door.
These are all things that are possible. We just have to figure out the plan
then ask. It might work.
I also think the idea of having to run new electricity kind of fun. I have
never done it, but with guidance I could. That is if we are allowed to do
that kind of stuff. We could actually make a space that doesn't use power
strip into power strip for electricity. We can plan to have more then 1
220v outlet. Like for Ricks Vacuum Table, our brand new Saw Stop table saw,
wielding booth, And band new industrial laser cutter.
These might be dreams now but I think it can happen.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:11 PM, <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
> Funky and damp as it is, it is the best overall location so far and is a
> good size. (I don't think the sizable
> upstairs office is even counted in the 2500.)
> I would caution against counting on wood heat, however. Even if the
> landlord and his/her insurance company are
> amenable, the cost to acquire and install a stove big enough to make a
> difference in that large a space may be
> sizable. (As far as I know, new legal installations of wood stoves are
> required to be of the modern catalytic style.)
> Also, I think Tom noted that the nearby wood scraps were mostly plywood,
> which should not be burnt. Plus, there will
> be some days when wood heat will not be allowed due to air quality, but
> probably not too many.
> > $100 split between 25 members is a small price to pay for twice the
> space and a better location. The repairs and
> > improvements that we make will be one time costs that can occur when we
> have the means to pay for them. Regardless of
> > where we move, I think it's time to put our money where our mouthes
> are... Monies where our mouth is?
> > Regards,
> > Weston
> >> On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>
> >> I also really like the Whiteaker space, based on the notes and what
> I've seen of the photos. There's a problem
> >> though. That space costs $1125 per month + utilities, internet, +
> whatever it will cost to route/fix electrical and
> >> build a wood stove, etc. We currently only have 21 paying members.
> That's only $525 per month to pay for all of
> >> that stuff. Of course, we've had several members pledge to pay extra
> for a while if we move to a new space. With
> >> those pledges in mind, we still are around $100 short of having enough
> money to only cover the rent/bills. That
> >> doesn't include and extra funds we would need to do repairs, run
> electrical, etc. We still need more pledges or
> >> more regular income. Either that or we need to get the price down on
> the space.
> >> That being said, it's actually one of the less expensive places we've
> looked at and actually had people like. I'm
> >> not trying to rain on everyone's parade. If we like these spaces, we
> should go for it. We just need to be aware
> >> that we need more funding in order to actually sign any lease documents.
> >>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Cord Slatton <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
> >>> I agree with Weston and Austin.
> >>>> On Oct 3, 2013 12:18 AM, "Weston Turner" <EMAIL HIDDEN>
> >>>> I am publicly casting my vote for the Whiteaker shop space to be our
> new Maker Space location. I also request that
> >>>> we put the top spaces to a vote (even if just an informal straw poll).
> >>>> The whit shop has a chimney for a wood stove, and rumor has it that
> there is a wood shop next door with a dumpster
> >>>> full of scrap wood. If we get a stove, that basically means we get
> free heat during the winter. That would save us
> >>>> a lot in utility costs. Plus, and most importantly, the space is
> really cool. And it's in the whit, regardless of
> >>>> whether we have a storefront presence, I think we will get more
> members and attention in that area. Who knows
> >>>> maybe we could even get sponsored by Ninkasi (the Eugene brewery who
> sponsors the Portland hacker space).
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Weston
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