[EMS Discuss] idea...? :D

James Hukill EMAIL HIDDEN
Sun Oct 20 16:51:19 PDT 2013


Excellent I look forward to it!

Let me know when you want to meet up.  I have solo dad duties all this week
so daytime is best for me.  Not sure of your work schedule.

I will shoot you my contact info out of thread.

--James


On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Austin McKimmey <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:

> Great news. It looks like James and I are members of the newly formed
> Sponsorship Outreach Committee! ;-)
>
> From
> Austin McKimmey
>
> On Oct 20, 2013, at 11:56 AM, James Hukill <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> Cliff,
> Excellent and thanks again for all the hard work on and coordinating the
> new shop hunting.
>
> Other topic (sponsorship, grants, endowments)
> Is this exclusive to the EMS board or can other members take initiative
> and seek grants/endowments/sponsors and donations?  Are there items in the
> bylaws preventing multiply sources of income in this manner or does it
> require a board member to make these decisions?
>
> Also, is this something that is a "board function",  to coordinate these
> duties?  example:
> I think I remember that we got some Teensy boards from Paul.  Did we ever
> do anything with them post/brag about them or say thanks in a public way to
> return the favor?  He has come out with the 3.0<http://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy3.html> and
> I don't think we got one, could be we did not follow up with the one we got.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Mr. Clif <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>
>>  Yes very true James,
>>
>> this is why we are moving. Look toward the future. ;-) I would be happy
>> to have a sponsor James, and I think some competition would be great as a
>> sponsored activity. However it should be at our shop and ideally it should
>> bring more people there. Now, I'll admit I've been more interested in
>> applying for grants than looking for sponsors that is my bias. I have even
>> done some quick googles for grants we might qualify for when I was board,
>> but currently landing a new space takes most of my time. However I now know
>> of two grant writers in our community that might be available to help if we
>> ask them nicely.
>>
>>     Clif
>>
>>
>> On 10/20/2013 11:27 AM, James Hukill wrote:
>>
>> I would be shocked if anyone wants to use our current space as a meeting
>> room and pay for it.
>>
>> So if you don't like the idea of having a meeting at a sponsor site, how
>> about an event or competition of some sort?  Fastest beer chilling
>> contraption or beer pouring bot?  What are your limits for what EMS would
>> do or with a sponsor?
>> I get you don't want one but there are possible enough members that do so
>> what the middle ground?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Mr. Clif <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>
>>>  I'm thinking instead of holding our meetings somewhere else and asking
>>> for sponsorship how about renting out our meeting room and getting extra
>>> money for that from other groups each month? That might even bring in more
>>> money and certainly get people down to our actual space not somewhere else.
>>>
>>>     Clif
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2013 11:14 AM, James Hukill wrote:
>>>
>>> I totally agree that (IMHO) we can/should seek some sponsorship.  The
>>> topic has come up before and there are some senior members with valid
>>> points about making sure it's done tastefully.  The example (to take it to
>>> the extreme for the point) is they do not want the shop to look like NSCAR.
>>>  I get that 100% and agree.  There has to be some middle ground though.
>>>
>>>  But, cart before the horse?.. When do we wait if at all to ask for
>>> some sponsorship?  What do we have to offer in return? Do we do it before
>>> we move?
>>> Simple example would be something like HopValley or Ninkasi.  We offerer
>>> to hold our membership meetings on site with them.  Most of us go and and
>>> have a drink now and again so might as well spend it with them.  They give
>>> EMS money and in return they know we will be onsite for a member meeting
>>> once a month that will bring them in x amount of $$.  Stickers at the shop
>>> with their logo, and or some type of newsletter with their logo name as a
>>> Sponsor...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Austin McKimmey <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I feel like we have discussed membership cost increasing many times
>>>> before. I don't think it has ever ended in any actual consideration to
>>>> change anything though. There are some of us, me included in not
>>>> embarrassed to say, that $25 is a hell of a lot to pay already. There would
>>>> have to be a much larger space and brand new shiny tools there for me to
>>>> consider paying any more.
>>>>
>>>> Everyone has heard me say this before. I personally think, if we have a
>>>> presentable space. Not something full of junk and rusty tools. We could
>>>> start asking for sponsorship funding from local businesses.
>>>>
>>>> There is a lot we can do.
>>>>  Austin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:06 AM, James Hukill <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree, but, there has to be some value add for the increase dues.
>>>>>  Bigger space with more room and not a project dump (aka bike cart overdue
>>>>> for going away) site is a start.
>>>>> We might chase folks away and there are some current members that the
>>>>> current dues are already at their max.  The idea of some shop work credit
>>>>> has been thrown about but I never heard what he board had to say about
>>>>> it(?).  If you are at your max dues then you have open and close the open
>>>>> house nights or other shop duties,  well lets be honest chores for lack of
>>>>> a better term.  The shit no one wants to due but needs to get done and if
>>>>> that helps you stay in at a price you can afford I am all for that.
>>>>>
>>>>>  But more to the point you were working on. Better tools, toys and
>>>>> resources for current and a draw for future members.  IMHO I think a new
>>>>> space will breed some new enthusiasm into the shop and might bring some
>>>>> life back into EMS.. who knows...
>>>>>
>>>>>  Is there a list of tools we want/need anymore?  It used to be on the
>>>>> whiteboard and was supposed to get transferred to a  inventory system that
>>>>> was going online?  That I was Kassandra I think.  Do we have a location for
>>>>> groups projects and their status?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Cord Slatton <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Recently Marie came across an article that explained Makerspaces
>>>>>> and their costs and gave a range of services etc. for a variety of areas
>>>>>> and uses...The lowest membership dues even listed were $35/month. Maybe we
>>>>>> need to increase our dues just slightly to give us more flexibility and to
>>>>>> allow us to invest in ourselves and have better equipment and a better
>>>>>> location.
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