[EMS Discuss] Target shooting range?

Tue Oct 22 10:29:28 PDT 2013

Would it be fair to set a deadline?  Obviously people still want to see
this project completed.  I myself would love to see it fully functional
since I put a lot of work into it as well back when we were still in the
competition.  (I haven't touched it since).  That being said I still think
people are getting sick of having the giant thing taking up so much space
(this again includes me).

I love the idea of a trophy room, but EMS' mission is to provide space,
tools, resources, etc for people to make things.  Space is at a premium
right now and I personally feel that if showcasing projects is getting in
the way of our primary mission then that is a problem.  If we had dedicated
space for that sort of thing (or high shelves or something?) then it might
make more sense.

With all that being said, it's obvious now that work is being made on the
project and it's not simply being showcased.  It's a current member
project.  We just have no way of knowing that it's being worked on without
asking because you can't tell just by looking at it.  Would setting a
deadline be a fair compromise?  Deadlines tend to get people moving and it
gives us another predetermined date to get an update on the status.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Kassie <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:

> I really want to see it done!  Having a shooting gallery is a dream of
> mine as well.  During the initial plan, I was for the idea of having this
> be available to members to play and be a recruitment tool.
> I have made significant invest in time and money as well, just not since
> the "contest end".  At that time, I thought it was a matter of taper doing
> a little electrical work.  Honestly, if I were to have taken over at that
> time to finish it, I would have had difficulties in that I have never
> seriously worked with andrino or serial data.  Unfortunately, I have been
> ill for some time and have not even been in the shop in sometime, but I
> would love to work on this project more.  I just need to know what to do.
> If I'm being honest, I am still a bit upset that the last redbull project
> was scrapped, but I do understand it.  These projects are why I joined! For
> them to disappear, I feel that my time, effort, and money for the project
> are wasted.  My main reason for wanting a bigger space is to have a "trophy
> area" were the best of our work as a group can be displayed.  It's my hope
> that having a trophy area will encourage group projects and add value to
> our membership.
> Anyway, I'll stop ranting now. I don't want it to go, but if it has to for
> the good of the organization I will understand.
> Kass
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Ben Hallert <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
> I'm still interested in contributing/assisting with the shooting range.  I
> had no idea anyone was working on it; if there's been a post to the
> discussion group seeking assistance I did not see it.
> I was primarily working on Bob and assumed (from the last volley of
> discussions I saw about the range a month ago or so) that the plan was
> disassembly of the trailer with the target boards or sub-sets of it mounted
> somewhere.  If we can keep it together and 'finish' it and take it out
> places, that would be the superior outcome.
> Cord, if you and Taper are willing to involve members in continuing work
> on this, please let us know.  If you reached out already and I missed it,
> then I apologize.  I'd really like to do a video w/ this and document it
> being used at Blairalley or some other 'hip' and active place.
> Ben
> - Ben
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Cord Slatton <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>> I appreciate that a lot! There have been a lot of grumbles from a lot of
>> people over it though...like I said it won't kill the project for me. Taper
>> can come over to my place...not sure he would...but I would see it through.
>> If it needs to get gone I would rather do it now that it is a subject of
>> discussion than continue to annoy people, possibly keeping them from doing
>> there own projects...
>>  On Oct 22, 2013 7:29 AM, "James Hukill" <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>> I have been one of the ones pushing to see it go as I thought it was not
>>> being worked on.  Publicly saying sorry for that.  You should not feel
>>> harassed about any project you are working on.
>>> So again.. my bad, sorry and I will stop using it as an example of
>>> projects taking up space that have gone stale as it has not and you have
>>> passion for it.  I don't want to kill that passion.
>>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Cord Slatton <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>> The status of this project is that 90% of the people working on it
>>>> abandoned it. Taper and I have been finishing it up, we are 98-99% done. We
>>>> made considerable investments of time and money and want to see it done.
>>>> I have offered multiple times to take it to my garage, however if I do
>>>> the things I consider relevant:
>>>> - The only use I have been getting out of my membership is the storage
>>>> of the target gallery while finishing it up
>>>> - I would want to own the target gallery and be able to make decisions
>>>> about it at that point instead of donating more time and money to the shop
>>>> if the shop doesn't want it.
>>>> I have intended to post to discuss about our progress, but have been
>>>> busy and forgot or the updates aren't very interesting.
>>>> I feel like no one except me and Taper want the target gallery finished
>>>> and that I am tired of being harassed about it and that the best solution
>>>> is for me to take it to my garage and EMS can forget it ever existed...
>>>> I am unwilling to tear it down, I want to see it completed, even if I
>>>> have to do it alone.
>>>> Cord
>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>>>>> What's the status of this project?  It's been about six months since
>>>>> the competition ended and it's still taking up a lot of useful space in the
>>>>> shop.  We keep talking about getting a bigger space and recently in the
>>>>> other thread there was talk about raising dues.  But if we can use our
>>>>> current space more efficiently we might be able to get more done with less
>>>>> in the meantime.
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