[EMS Discuss] Target shooting range?

Tue Oct 22 10:53:42 PDT 2013

Instead of a deadline, how about a buildathon?  Schedule a weekend in
the near future to get together and make serious progress on it.  Work
around the clock if you dare.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
> Would it be fair to set a deadline?  Obviously people still want to see this
> project completed.  I myself would love to see it fully functional since I
> put a lot of work into it as well back when we were still in the
> competition.  (I haven't touched it since).  That being said I still think
> people are getting sick of having the giant thing taking up so much space
> (this again includes me).
> I love the idea of a trophy room, but EMS' mission is to provide space,
> tools, resources, etc for people to make things.  Space is at a premium
> right now and I personally feel that if showcasing projects is getting in
> the way of our primary mission then that is a problem.  If we had dedicated
> space for that sort of thing (or high shelves or something?) then it might
> make more sense.
> With all that being said, it's obvious now that work is being made on the
> project and it's not simply being showcased.  It's a current member project.
> We just have no way of knowing that it's being worked on without asking
> because you can't tell just by looking at it.  Would setting a deadline be a
> fair compromise?  Deadlines tend to get people moving and it gives us
> another predetermined date to get an update on the status.
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Kassie <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>> I really want to see it done!  Having a shooting gallery is a dream of
>> mine as well.  During the initial plan, I was for the idea of having this be
>> available to members to play and be a recruitment tool.
>> I have made significant invest in time and money as well, just not since
>> the "contest end".  At that time, I thought it was a matter of taper doing a
>> little electrical work.  Honestly, if I were to have taken over at that time
>> to finish it, I would have had difficulties in that I have never seriously
>> worked with andrino or serial data.  Unfortunately, I have been ill for some
>> time and have not even been in the shop in sometime, but I would love to
>> work on this project more.  I just need to know what to do.
>> If I'm being honest, I am still a bit upset that the last redbull project
>> was scrapped, but I do understand it.  These projects are why I joined! For
>> them to disappear, I feel that my time, effort, and money for the project
>> are wasted.  My main reason for wanting a bigger space is to have a "trophy
>> area" were the best of our work as a group can be displayed.  It's my hope
>> that having a trophy area will encourage group projects and add value to our
>> membership.
>> Anyway, I'll stop ranting now. I don't want it to go, but if it has to for
>> the good of the organization I will understand.
>> Kass
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Ben Hallert <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>> I'm still interested in contributing/assisting with the shooting range.  I
>> had no idea anyone was working on it; if there's been a post to the
>> discussion group seeking assistance I did not see it.
>> I was primarily working on Bob and assumed (from the last volley of
>> discussions I saw about the range a month ago or so) that the plan was
>> disassembly of the trailer with the target boards or sub-sets of it mounted
>> somewhere.  If we can keep it together and 'finish' it and take it out
>> places, that would be the superior outcome.
>> Cord, if you and Taper are willing to involve members in continuing work
>> on this, please let us know.  If you reached out already and I missed it,
>> then I apologize.  I'd really like to do a video w/ this and document it
>> being used at Blairalley or some other 'hip' and active place.
>> Ben
>> - Ben
>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Cord Slatton <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>> I appreciate that a lot! There have been a lot of grumbles from a lot of
>>> people over it though...like I said it won't kill the project for me. Taper
>>> can come over to my place...not sure he would...but I would see it through.
>>> If it needs to get gone I would rather do it now that it is a subject of
>>> discussion than continue to annoy people, possibly keeping them from doing
>>> there own projects...
>>> On Oct 22, 2013 7:29 AM, "James Hukill" <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>> I have been one of the ones pushing to see it go as I thought it was not
>>>> being worked on.  Publicly saying sorry for that.  You should not feel
>>>> harassed about any project you are working on.
>>>> So again.. my bad, sorry and I will stop using it as an example of
>>>> projects taking up space that have gone stale as it has not and you have
>>>> passion for it.  I don't want to kill that passion.
>>>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Cord Slatton <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>>> The status of this project is that 90% of the people working on it
>>>>> abandoned it. Taper and I have been finishing it up, we are 98-99% done. We
>>>>> made considerable investments of time and money and want to see it done.
>>>>> I have offered multiple times to take it to my garage, however if I do
>>>>> the things I consider relevant:
>>>>> - The only use I have been getting out of my membership is the storage
>>>>> of the target gallery while finishing it up
>>>>> - I would want to own the target gallery and be able to make decisions
>>>>> about it at that point instead of donating more time and money to the shop
>>>>> if the shop doesn't want it.
>>>>> I have intended to post to discuss about our progress, but have been
>>>>> busy and forgot or the updates aren't very interesting.
>>>>> I feel like no one except me and Taper want the target gallery finished
>>>>> and that I am tired of being harassed about it and that the best solution is
>>>>> for me to take it to my garage and EMS can forget it ever existed...
>>>>> I am unwilling to tear it down, I want to see it completed, even if I
>>>>> have to do it alone.
>>>>> Cord
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> What's the status of this project?  It's been about six months since
>>>>>> the competition ended and it's still taking up a lot of useful space in the
>>>>>> shop.  We keep talking about getting a bigger space and recently in the
>>>>>> other thread there was talk about raising dues.  But if we can use our
>>>>>> current space more efficiently we might be able to get more done with less
>>>>>> in the meantime.
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