[EMS Discuss] New Storage Rules for Eugene Maker Space

Wed Oct 30 13:37:33 PDT 2013

Sorry.  .md is Markdown.  http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/
 If you don't have a Markdown reader, you can open it as a text file.
Meanwhile, here it is as a PDF file.

I'll wait until you've read the proposal before addressing your other comments.

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
> First of all, what is a .md file?  I don't seem to have anything that can
> open it and I'm not familiar with the extension.
> Second, I like this idea in general (based only on your summary).  I get
> Sam's point that we might be restricting what activities will occur at EMS
> based on who can afford to actually do those activities.  It seems a bit
> unfair that someone with more money essentially has more options but
> honestly, we have to do SOMEthing.  We need to make sure things don't just
> collect and sit around forever.
> How with the $2.50 be billed?  $2.50 per sqft per month? per week?  What if
> I only use the space for 1-2 weeks but you want to bill me per month?  Do I
> have to pay for the whole month or do you pro-rate it so I only pay for the
> time used?  What if it's 1.5 weeks? Do we go per day at that point or round
> up to the nearest week/month?
> Also, what if someone wants to keep their large project out for three days?
> Two days are free, anything over that and we start charging money.  How much
> will we stick to our guns on that?  I can envision many cases where
> someone's project sticks around an extra day or two.  Do we then demand them
> to pay us $2.50 per square foot pro-rated or do we just let it go?
> I think it might be useful to include a provision that says the
> board/membership can vote to approve larger projects with the requirement
> that the motion includes a "review date".  That way if EMS as an
> organization wants to work on or sponsor some large project, we have a way
> to approve it.  Requiring the "review date" ensures that a project which has
> gone stale or has lost momentum can be either booted out or start paying
> rent.
> Lastly, EVERYTHING GETS A LABEL OR YOU LOSE IT!  I think this is fair but
> I'm curious about possible legal ramifications   I'm guessing we would only
> be able to get an answer to that by talking to a lawyer and we aren't made
> of money so maybe we just have to consider it a disclaimer and hope for the
> best.  Worth thinking about anyway though.
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Sam Foster <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>> I have mixed feelings about the storage proposal. I think in general I'm
>> in favor, but the rates do put larger projects (e.g bike/trailer) out of
>> reach of my budget. On the flip-side, I think its appropriate that the space
>> *not* be used for indefinite storage of materials/junk/inactive projects by
>> members, so the rates are a reasonable deterrent (there's self-storage units
>> for that). I assume these are the kind of considerations that led to the
>> current proposal.
>> Somewhere in there I worry that we are putting a box around the kinds of
>> things that can happen at the maker space. But I welcome the clarity and I
>> assume no policies are set in stone from now till the end of time.
>> /Sam
>> On 10/30/2013 12:11 PM, Bob Miller wrote:
>>> At our membership meeting Dec. 8th, I am going to propose that we
>>> adopt some rules about storage.  I have attached a document which
>>> would amend the Policies Document.  I will propose that these rules
>>> take effect January 1st.
>>> Since items up for vote have to be proposed 30 days ahead, we have
>>> until 11/7 to discuss this and refine it.  Discuss/refine away!
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