[EMS Discuss] Help us find a new home!

Mr. Clif EMAIL HIDDEN
Thu Sep 5 13:33:42 PDT 2013


Ok Meet me at 175 S. Danebo (Scientific Insterments) at 2:00 PM. :-)

     Clif

James Hukill wrote:
> I am on that side of town so I can be there pretty quick..
> Just let me know, as long as I am home by 4pm (kids school, bla bla bla).
>
> --James
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>  wrote:
>
>> Ok what is a good time for you James? I will check and see if the correct
>> person is around then.
>>
>> Thanks for checking in Marie, and Bob. I think that for the first pass we
>> want to see them as fast as we can and if you are available that is great,
>> or you can also pick a place to look at on your own time frame and invite
>> others to go with you. For the second pass we should definitely schedule it
>> a few days to a week in advance and try to get as many folks as possible to
>> go.
>>
>> Also I just drove by this place which I think is next to the silk screen
>> or embroidery ladies place:
>>
>> http://eugene.craigslist.org/**off/4006736624.html<http://eugene.craigslist.org/off/4006736624.html>
>>
>> It's upstairs so that might be a show stopper, not sure if the office
>> space in the picture is part of that or not because that part seems to be
>> downstairs.
>>
>>      Ciao!
>>      Clif
>>
>>
>> James Hukill wrote:
>>
>>> I am in.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:42 AM, "Mr. Clif"<EMAIL HIDDEN>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi Marie, and gang,
>>>> We can view the 175 S. Danebo space anytime today before 4:00 PM. I'm
>>>> checking on some others as well. What time works for you guys?
>>>>
>>>> I'm also wondering if I should just be contacting the people interested
>>>> in the space search off list. I'm thinking those folks might be Marie, Sam,
>>>> Craig, James, and Bob. Though that is just wishful thinking, Marie is the
>>>> only one so far who really said she was into it.
>>>>
>>>> What do you guys think?
>>>>
>>>>      Clif
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marie Slatton-Valle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for answering those questions Cliff.  Count me in for the next
>>>>> and
>>>>> future building visits or related meetings.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as shared spaces I know our group is open to sharing space.  I
>>>>> think
>>>>> Makerspace would be a good mix as there is a lot of overlap with the
>>>>> noise
>>>>> factor (industrial sewing machines) and other space requirements; not to
>>>>> mention the current trends in fashion design with 3-D printing and
>>>>> etextiles.  I will bring it up at our next meeting this Friday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Hi Marie,
>>>>>> here are some answers as I personally see them:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marie Slatton-Valle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I'm down to help on location scouting.  I've been scouting similarly
>>>>>>> sized
>>>>>>> locations for a garment production house and often think of EMS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I looked over the space ratings doc in the wiki and just have a few
>>>>>>> questions.  1) Does EMS only want month-to-month leases or is
>>>>>>> something a
>>>>>>> little longer acceptable?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes we did have a six month lease on our current space, and our current
>>>>>> draft proposal for a new space involves a 12 month lease.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       2) Does EMS need to be in an industrial zone or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is a commercial space okay?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Commercial is slightly preferable because it usually implies a store
>>>>>> front
>>>>>> with display windows and a bit more foot traffic. However, the
>>>>>> trade-off is
>>>>>> that the cost per square foot is higher, and often more than we can
>>>>>> afford.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      3) What is meant by noise limits on the space
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ratings doc?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well we have noisy shop tools like grinders and say, a book store or
>>>>>> quiet
>>>>>> office park might not like that. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    That's all I can think of for now.
>>>>>> Thanks for your help! It would be cool if a few of us could form an
>>>>>> informal group that looked at properties together. I'm interested in
>>>>>> scheduling a visit to the danebo place next week. Are you interested?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Also, has anyone read this Make
>>>>>>> article<http://makezine.com/****2013/06/04/making-makerspaces-****<http://makezine.com/**2013/06/04/making-makerspaces-**>
>>>>>>> creating-a-business-model/<htt**p://makezine.com/2013/06/04/**
>>>>>>> making-makerspaces-creating-a-**business-model/<http://makezine.com/2013/06/04/making-makerspaces-creating-a-business-model/>
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> Makerspaces as a business model?  Really solid, solid info.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right... I should read that. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Let me know what I can do to help.  Definitely down to scope out a few
>>>>>>> places.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if you're looking for a sewing place would you be interested in
>>>>>> sharing
>>>>>> with EMS?? :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Marie
>>>>>>       Clif
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Rick Osgood<EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   While things may have calmed down around EMS lately since everyone has
>>>>>>>> been out enjoying the summer weather, we are still looking for a new
>>>>>>>> home
>>>>>>>> to support our growing membership.  Looking at the survey results
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> member poll, the top three voted locations for EMS would be:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Downtown Eugene followed by East Eugene or West Eugene (pretty much
>>>>>>>> a tie
>>>>>>>> on those two)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The top features our members would like to see in a new space are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Larger shop space (we currently have 1000sqft)
>>>>>>>> 2. The ability to subdivide the space to separate activities
>>>>>>>> 3. Larger office space for quiet/cleaner activities
>>>>>>>> 4. Within walking distance of local community
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We could really use help trying to find a space.  Our monthly budget
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> new space will likely be between $1000 and $1300 per month.  That
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> require us to stretch our wallets when possible to make it happen.
>>>>>>>>   We
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> a really nicely written proposal that includes clauses to ramp up the
>>>>>>>> rent
>>>>>>>> and utilities costs over time, which means we might be able to get
>>>>>>>> away
>>>>>>>> with something more expensive than this if we can grow our member
>>>>>>>> base to
>>>>>>>> match the rent increases.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keep in mind we may have to compromise on some of the features.  For
>>>>>>>> example it will likely cost more to have more space, but it may also
>>>>>>>> cost
>>>>>>>> more to be downtown.  We may have to make a trade off on space versus
>>>>>>>> location.  If you can find a place that meets some variation of these
>>>>>>>> criteria, please email EMAIL HIDDEN and let us know!
>>>>>>>>   We
>>>>>>>> will get in touch with the owners and send them our proposal.
>>>>>>>>   Hopefully
>>>>>>>> having more people look for a space means we can find one more
>>>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for you help!
>>>>>>>>
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