[EMS Discuss] 175 S Danebo Pictures

Ben Hallert EMAIL HIDDEN
Thu Sep 5 19:39:02 PDT 2013


Relevant video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-O8_Ja05Gs

- Ben


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:30 PM, James Hukill <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:

> Thanks for posting these Cliff.
>
> --James
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Mr. Clif <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>
>> This is currently the best option that I know of. There are a couple of
>> other places that I would like to see though. Here are the pictures:
>>
>> http://www.eugeneweb.com/**gallery2/v/clif/Geeky/EMS/175_**Danebo/<http://www.eugeneweb.com/gallery2/v/clif/Geeky/EMS/175_Danebo/>
>>
>>     Ciao,
>>     Clif
>>
>> Rick Osgood wrote:
>>
>>>  From your description this space sounds pretty attractive!  Not
>>> "perfect"
>>> but we will almost definnitely have to compromise somewhere.  The price
>>> is
>>> definitely in the ballpark range.  Thanks for checking it out, I look
>>> forward to seeing photos.-
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Guys,
>>>>
>>>> So James and I saw 175 Danebo today. And it was very attractive. I still
>>>> need to post the pictures but here is a quick summery.
>>>>
>>>> There is 2200 sqft of a kinda grungy car shop space with an additional
>>>> 550
>>>> sqft of storage space some with shower stall sized "lockers". Also
>>>> there is
>>>> the possibility of dividing the shop space with a roll-up door that is
>>>> there. There is lots of power in the shop, and they are willing to add a
>>>> couple of 220 Outlets if we need them. The concrete floor has some big
>>>> cracks and is not perfectly level, so don't trip on them. There is an
>>>> adjoining bathroom for the shop but that may be the only sink for the
>>>> shop
>>>> area. This shop is not insulated and is on a separate electrical
>>>> service so
>>>> any space heater you put in it is money out the window. Eg we pay the
>>>> power
>>>> bill for the shop.
>>>>
>>>> You have to go outside to get to the office space but it's only 50ish
>>>> feet
>>>> in the rain to get there. ;-) That space is about 1600 sqft divided up
>>>> into
>>>> four offices and a large reception area, plus a bathroom and storage /
>>>> server room.  One office is quite large almost a community sized room
>>>> at 16
>>>> x 16, which maybe shared using three desks. The rent is $1445 plus a
>>>> fixed
>>>> $100 / mo for utils in the office space so that would be a total of
>>>> $100 +
>>>> the power bill in the shop in utils. We can run cat 5 through the
>>>> celling
>>>> Or perhaps use some of the mystery outlets that are already there.
>>>>
>>>> There are about 7 parking spaces in the back. It's definitely not close
>>>> that close to anything, and probably not bike friendly though I could
>>>> ride
>>>> my bike there if I wanted some more exercise.
>>>>
>>>> I think Kevin said we could afford about $1000 a month in rent so about
>>>> 5
>>>> of us would have to sign up for the extra until we had more members.
>>>>
>>>>      More later. :-)
>>>>      Clif
>>>>
>>>> Rick Osgood wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I am interested in looking at the spaces but like Sam I can't really
>>>>> make
>>>>> it unless it's after 5:00PM or on the weekends.  Don't hold anything
>>>>> up on
>>>>> my account, but if you can ever get a viewing during those times I'm
>>>>> happy
>>>>> to come check things out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Ok Meet me at 175 S. Danebo (Scientific Insterments) at 2:00 PM. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>>       Clif
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James Hukill wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I am on that side of town so I can be there pretty quick..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just let me know, as long as I am home by 4pm (kids school, bla bla
>>>>>>> bla).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Ok what is a good time for you James? I will check and see if the
>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  person is around then.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking in Marie, and Bob. I think that for the first
>>>>>>>> pass
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> want to see them as fast as we can and if you are available that is
>>>>>>>> great,
>>>>>>>> or you can also pick a place to look at on your own time frame and
>>>>>>>> invite
>>>>>>>> others to go with you. For the second pass we should definitely
>>>>>>>> schedule
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> a few days to a week in advance and try to get as many folks as
>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> go.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also I just drove by this place which I think is next to the silk
>>>>>>>> screen
>>>>>>>> or embroidery ladies place:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://eugene.craigslist.org/********off/4006736624.html<http://eugene.craigslist.org/******off/4006736624.html>
>>>>>>>> <http:**//eugene.craigslist.org/******off/4006736624.html<http://eugene.craigslist.org/****off/4006736624.html>
>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>> <http**://eugene.craigslist.org/off/**4006736624.html<http://eugene.craigslist.org/off/4006736624.html>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's upstairs so that might be a show stopper, not sure if the
>>>>>>>> office
>>>>>>>> space in the picture is part of that or not because that part seems
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> downstairs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        Ciao!
>>>>>>>>        Clif
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James Hukill wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    I am in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:42 AM, "Mr. Clif"<EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Hi Marie, and gang,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   We can view the 175 S. Danebo space anytime today before 4:00
>>>>>>>>> PM. I'm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> checking on some others as well. What time works for you guys?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm also wondering if I should just be contacting the people
>>>>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>>>>> in the space search off list. I'm thinking those folks might be
>>>>>>>>>> Marie,
>>>>>>>>>> Sam,
>>>>>>>>>> Craig, James, and Bob. Though that is just wishful thinking,
>>>>>>>>>> Marie is
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> only one so far who really said she was into it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        Clif
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marie Slatton-Valle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    Thanks for answering those questions Cliff.  Count me in for
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  and
>>>>>>>>>>> future building visits or related meetings.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As far as shared spaces I know our group is open to sharing
>>>>>>>>>>> space.
>>>>>>>>>>>   I
>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>> Makerspace would be a good mix as there is a lot of overlap with
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> noise
>>>>>>>>>>> factor (industrial sewing machines) and other space requirements;
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> mention the current trends in fashion design with 3-D printing
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> etextiles.  I will bring it up at our next meeting this Friday.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Hi Marie,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   here are some answers as I personally see them:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marie Slatton-Valle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     I'm down to help on location scouting.  I've been scouting
>>>>>>>>>>>> similarly
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   sized
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> locations for a garment production house and often think of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked over the space ratings doc in the wiki and just have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions.  1) Does EMS only want month-to-month leases or is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> little longer acceptable?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Yes we did have a six month lease on our current space, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  current
>>>>>>>>>>>> draft proposal for a new space involves a 12 month lease.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         2) Does EMS need to be in an industrial zone or
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    is a commercial space okay?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Commercial is slightly preferable because it usually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> implies a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  store
>>>>>>>>>>>> front
>>>>>>>>>>>> with display windows and a bit more foot traffic. However, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> trade-off is
>>>>>>>>>>>> that the cost per square foot is higher, and often more than we
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> afford.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>        3) What is meant by noise limits on the space
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    ratings doc?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Well we have noisy shop tools like grinders and say, a book
>>>>>>>>>>>>> store
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  or
>>>>>>>>>>>> quiet
>>>>>>>>>>>> office park might not like that. ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>      That's all I can think of for now.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help! It would be cool if a few of us could
>>>>>>>>>>>> form an
>>>>>>>>>>>> informal group that looked at properties together. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> scheduling a visit to the danebo place next week. Are you
>>>>>>>>>>>> interested?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Also, has anyone read this Make
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makerspaces as a business model?  Really solid, solid info.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Right... I should read that. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Let me know what I can do to help.  Definitely down to
>>>>>>>>>>>> scope
>>>>>>>>>>>> out a
>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   places.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    So if you're looking for a sewing place would you be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  sharing
>>>>>>>>>>>> with EMS?? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Marie
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Clif
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Rick Osgood<
>>>>>>>>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     While things may have calmed down around EMS lately since
>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   been out enjoying the summer weather, we are still looking
>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to support our growing membership.  Looking at the survey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> member poll, the top three voted locations for EMS would be:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Downtown Eugene followed by East Eugene or West Eugene (pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a tie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on those two)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The top features our members would like to see in a new space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Larger shop space (we currently have 1000sqft)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The ability to subdivide the space to separate activities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Larger office space for quiet/cleaner activities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Within walking distance of local community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We could really use help trying to find a space.  Our monthly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> budget
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new space will likely be between $1000 and $1300 per month.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> require us to stretch our wallets when possible to make it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a really nicely written proposal that includes clauses to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ramp up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and utilities costs over time, which means we might be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with something more expensive than this if we can grow our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> member
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> base to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> match the rent increases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep in mind we may have to compromise on some of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example it will likely cost more to have more space, but it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more to be downtown.  We may have to make a trade off on space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location.  If you can find a place that meets some variation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criteria, please email EMAIL HIDDEN and let us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will get in touch with the owners and send them our proposal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hopefully
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having more people look for a space means we can find one more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for you help!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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