[EMS Discuss] 1010 Grant Space

Mr. Clif EMAIL HIDDEN
Sun Sep 8 19:13:23 PDT 2013


Ok,

does anyone else want to see 1010 Grant this week after 5:00? What days 
are good for yall?

     Clif

Cord Slatton wrote:
> I can only go after 5pm and am busy monday, thursday this week.
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>  wrote:
>
>> Ok,
>>
>> Since most of us haven't seen it yet why don't we schedule a visit for
>> next week sometime? I suspect that some of you will only be able to see it
>> on your lunch break or after 5:00. Please reply so we know what works for
>> you.
>>
>>      Thanks,
>>      Clif
>>
>> Rick Osgood wrote:
>>
>>> That space is still available?  I think it could definitely work for us.
>>>    It's currently split up into many different rooms.  The one downside is
>>> that the "big room" isn't as big as I'd like it to be.  I think the
>>> landlord was open to rearranging walls though.
>>>
>>> The other odd part is that they have a tenant that lives an a small
>>> apartment on top of the space.  It might be good in that there's always a
>>> presence around to ward off potential thieves.  Or it could be bad in that
>>> we will make too much noise.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   I drove by the 1010 Grant space today, and then remembered that Rick
>>>> looked at it a while ago.
>>>>
>>>> Listing: http://eugene.craigslist.org/****off/4033483508.html<http://eugene.craigslist.org/**off/4033483508.html>
>>>> <http://**eugene.craigslist.org/off/**4033483508.html<http://eugene.craigslist.org/off/4033483508.html>
>>>> Pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/****79203042@N05/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/**79203042@N05/>
>>>> <http://www.**flickr.com/photos/79203042@**N05/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/79203042@N05/>
>>>> There were some homeless bicycle people sitting next to the sliding door,
>>>> so I wounder what that means for walk in traffic. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> So this place is roughly the same cost per sqft but almost down town and
>>>> next to a park. Do we want to revisit it (both literally and
>>>> figuratively)
>>>> or did we decide that it was not usable?
>>>>
>>>>       Clif
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kevin King wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   It would be nice if it was not quite so residential. Late Night work on
>>>>> projects
>>>>> might cause issues with neighbors.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--**
>>>>> --------------------
>>>>> *From:* Rick Osgood<EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>> *To:* Kevin King<EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>> *Cc:* Bob Miller<EMAIL HIDDEN>; board<EMAIL HIDDEN***
>>>>> *com<EMAIL HIDDEN**com<EMAIL HIDDEN>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Tue, June 4, 2013 3:51:08 PM
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EMS Board] 1010 Grant Space
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good question. It's aparently "chambers special zone". It sounds like
>>>>> it's zoned
>>>>> for both residential and commercial/industrial but the wording is kind
>>>>> of
>>>>> tricky:
>>>>>
>>>>> Inline image 1
>>>>>
>>>>> You can look up the zoning in Eugene on this site:
>>>>> http://ceapps.eugene-or.gov/****PDDOnline/Maps/ZoningMap<http://ceapps.eugene-or.gov/**PDDOnline/Maps/ZoningMap>
>>>>> <http:**//ceapps.eugene-or.gov/**PDDOnline/Maps/ZoningMap<http://ceapps.eugene-or.gov/PDDOnline/Maps/ZoningMap>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Kevin King<EMAIL HIDDEN
>>>>> <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>        What type of zoning does this space have? That would determine how
>>>>> loud we
>>>>>        could be.
>>>>>
>>>>>        ------------------------------****----------------------------**
>>>>> --**
>>>>> --------------------
>>>>>        *From:* Rick Osgood<EMAIL HIDDEN<****mailto:
>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN>**>
>>>>>        *To:* Bob Miller<EMAIL HIDDEN<****mailto:
>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN>>
>>>>>        *Cc:* board<EMAIL HIDDEN****com<
>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN**com<EMAIL HIDDEN>>
>>>>> <mailto:Board@**eugenemakerspa**ce.com<http://eugenemakerspace.com><
>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN**com<EMAIL HIDDEN>>>>
>>>>>        *Sent:* Mon, June 3, 2013 8:52:35 PM
>>>>>        *Subject:* Re: [EMS Board] 1010 Grant Space
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>        I think the next step is to decide if there is any reason this
>>>>> space
>>>>>        definitely won't work, or if the general feeling you all get is
>>>>> "no
>>>>> we can
>>>>>        do better". If you think this might work, let's schedule another
>>>>> visit with
>>>>>        the board and maybe other members too so everyone can check it
>>>>> out.
>>>>> We
>>>>>        should at least try to get those people who volunteered extra
>>>>> money
>>>>> to come
>>>>>        check it out with us. Then we can discuss it and decide.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>        On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Bob Miller<EMAIL HIDDEN
>>>>>        <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN>>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            What's the next step? Figure out how we can pay for it? Or is
>>>>> that
>>>>>            problem solved with our new core group?
>>>>>
>>>>>            Do we need to get a critical mass of members in there to look
>>>>> at
>>>>> it
>>>>>            and decide whether it is the space for us?
>>>>>
>>>>>            I like what I see in the pictures, but you're right, they're
>>>>> not
>>>>> like
>>>>>            being there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Rick Osgood<
>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN
>>>>>            <mailto:EMAIL HIDDEN****>>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>             >    First of all, check out the photos I took here:
>>>>>             >    http://www.flickr.com/photos/****79203042@N05/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/**79203042@N05/>
>>>>> <http://www.**flickr.com/photos/79203042@**N05/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/79203042@N05/>
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    Sorry for the wall of text, but I want to try and get all
>>>>> the crucial
>>>>>             >    information out about this space. I checked out the 1010
>>>>> Grant space on
>>>>>             >    Saturday morning. I think it's a possibility for EMS but
>>>>> there are a
>>>>>            couple
>>>>>             >    of things that make it less than ideal.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    It's really hard to get a good idea of the layout of this
>>>>> place from the
>>>>>             >    photos because there are so many rooms chained together.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    This space was last used as a bicycle shop. It's been
>>>>> vacant
>>>>> for
>>>>>            about 2-3
>>>>>             >    weeks according to the owner.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    Positive things:
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    Across the street from this building is a small park.
>>>>> Seems
>>>>> like it could
>>>>>             >    be nice to have a park so close by for when we do
>>>>> events. It
>>>>> could be a
>>>>>             >    good place to do paper rockets for example.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    The space is organized into about 8 or 9 different
>>>>> rooms. I
>>>>> honestly
>>>>>            liked
>>>>>             >    the multiple rooms. It seemed like the rooms were big
>>>>> enough
>>>>> where we
>>>>>            could
>>>>>             >    separate things like wood working, metal working,
>>>>> welding,
>>>>>            electronics, etc,
>>>>>             >    to keep things organized and clean. We might also be
>>>>> able to
>>>>> make a
>>>>>            sort of
>>>>>             >    conference room or presentation room.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    The biggest room is an L shape and has a big bay door.
>>>>> The
>>>>> door is about
>>>>>             >    1-2 feet off the ground though, so we would need a ramp
>>>>> to
>>>>> wheel
>>>>>            anything in
>>>>>             >    and out. It is also blocked by sidewalk with a curb, so
>>>>> the
>>>>> ramp
>>>>>            would have
>>>>>             >    to go to the street.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    The second biggest room is pretty open and has a
>>>>> kitchenette
>>>>> with a
>>>>>            sink and
>>>>>             >    some cabinets. It seemed to me like it could be a good
>>>>> room
>>>>> to put a big
>>>>>             >    collection of tables and chairs for the communal work
>>>>> area.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    The building seems to have a good electrical supply, and
>>>>> I
>>>>> noticed
>>>>>            some 240V
>>>>>             >    outlets here and there in various rooms.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    The owner said she wouldn't mind us taking out some of
>>>>> the
>>>>> walls to
>>>>>            make it
>>>>>             >    more open as long as the wall isn't load-bearing.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    There are two doors on the face of the building that go
>>>>> inside, to two
>>>>>             >    different rooms. The owner said she wouldn't mind us
>>>>> subletting the
>>>>>            smaller
>>>>>             >    room to another tenant as long is she could approve them
>>>>> first. This
>>>>>            could
>>>>>             >    be a way for us to make an extra $500 or so per month at
>>>>> the
>>>>> cost of a
>>>>>             >    smaller office sized space.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    There is a nice big fluorescent lighting fixture on the
>>>>> face
>>>>> of the
>>>>>             >    building. We could have an EMS sign made so our logo
>>>>> lights
>>>>> up nice and
>>>>>             >    bright on the front of the building.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    There are about 7-8 parking spaces in the lot and street
>>>>> parking around.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    There is a small corner store just south of our place
>>>>> that
>>>>> might be
>>>>>            nice to
>>>>>             >    have within walking distance.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    The building has heating but no cooling. The owner says
>>>>> it
>>>>> tends to stay
>>>>>             >    cool in the summer though.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    And now for the things I feel are negative.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    There is a small apartment on top of this building. The
>>>>> owner says a
>>>>>             >    Hispanic guy lives there and seems friendly. She said he
>>>>> works at
>>>>>            Market of
>>>>>             >    Choice really late, so his hours are late like ours are.
>>>>> She
>>>>> didn't think
>>>>>             >    it would be a problem having him there with what we are
>>>>> doing, but we
>>>>>            should
>>>>>             >    think about that. One good thing about this is there is
>>>>> always
>>>>>            somebody at
>>>>>             >    the space so it may be less likely for us to get a
>>>>> break-in.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    The rear of the building (west side) is only about 3-4
>>>>> feet
>>>>> away from a
>>>>>             >    residential house. The owner didn't know anything about
>>>>> those people but
>>>>>             >    still didn't think it would be an issue for us.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >    There aren't many windows in this building. It seemed to
>>>>> me
>>>>> like only the
>>>>>             >    front face of the building has windows. The rest of the
>>>>> rooms will need
>>>>>             >    good lighting to be very usable to us as shop space.
>>>>>             >
>>>>>             >
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