[EMS Discuss] 3395 W 7th

Mr. Clif EMAIL HIDDEN
Mon Sep 9 18:05:15 PDT 2013


Hmmm according to the 
https://www.eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/Sites/NewSpaceSearch page it's 
only $1400 thats why it's the cheapest. :-)

     Clif

Rick Osgood wrote:
> Awesome, thanks for the update.  I think the price of $1450 + utilities is
> going to be a stretch for us but I wouldn't say it's not doable.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>  wrote:
>
>> So I just got a call from the owner of 3395 W 7th. This is the cheapest
>> space we have looked at so far.
>>
>> He seemed really nice and enthusiastic about our group. I said we were a
>> non-profit and talked about how it's hard to just jump into a bigger space.
>> When I asked him if he would consider ramping up the rent for us he was
>> less excited and said he didn't think that would work for him. Well it was
>> worth a try...
>>
>> He did say the gate idea would probably be ok with him and late late night
>> noise shouldn't be a problem.
>> He is looking to get someone in there around October but if we made a
>> commitment then I think he would hold it a while longer for us.
>>
>>      Ciao,
>>      Clif
>>
>> Rick Osgood wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> The second space we looked at today was pretty awesome.  It's basically a
>>> giant version of our current shop with a small office, a small bathroom,
>>> and a huge warehouse space.  The ceilings are probably 30-40 feet high?
>>>    There's much more power than our current shop.  The main downside I can
>>> think of is that we will have to find a way to deal with the fact that
>>> they
>>> lock the gate to the parking lot when businesses are not open.  This means
>>> every member would need to have a way to open the gate.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM,<EMAIL HIDDEN>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   I got there early.  Lots of space.  HATE the stairs.  Deal killer for me.
>>>> -Darrell
>>>>
>>>>   It looks like Anne and I can be there too.
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Rick Osgood<EMAIL HIDDEN**com<EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can do 11.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Mark Danburg-Wyld<
>>>>>>
>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 11 is fine with me, meet you there. Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2013 2:28 PM, "Mr. Clif"<EMAIL HIDDEN>   wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok I was out running errands for a bit but just talked to Rene at the
>>>>>>>> property managment co, and she says yes but would 11:00 AM work ok
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for us?
>>>>> If not she could rearange her morning somewhat to meet us at 10:00 AM.
>>>>>>>> Please let me know so I can get back to her. :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Thanks,
>>>>>>>>       Clif
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rick Osgood wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 10AM works for me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Mark
>>>>>>>>> Danburg-Wyld<danburgwyld@**gmail.com<EMAIL HIDDEN>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   I'm open - late morning? Say 10:00?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>> I think they were a sign shop, not sure how heavy the tools are for
>>>>>>>>>>> that,
>>>>>>>>>>> but sure we can visit. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>> Should I try to schedule something for tomorrow? What times work
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> guys?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>        Clif
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Danburg-Wyld wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   I still would say visit. The previous tenant could not possibly
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>> running on hand tools, and so there must be some way of getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> heavy
>>>>> equipment up/down beyond the stairs...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     I'm sure she would have mentioned it if there was a lift. How
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>> her we are really needing a ground floor shop and would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing about other properties she may know of?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Clif
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Danburg-Wyld wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     In the interest of not having all our eggs in one basket, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>> recommend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we still take a look at this one in person, even given the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressed thus far. Maybe there's a lift that's not visible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertised pictures, for example. If not, we could talk in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that seems like a show-stopper, ask what else they might be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to
>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us, etc. JMO. Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Rick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Osgood<EMAIL HIDDEN*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *com<EMAIL HIDDEN****>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Man I too wish the space were reversed.  When we looked at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Fertilab we required that we had downstairs space for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons
>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already listed here.  I definitely think it would be a good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this person owns other property or maybe knows someone else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property we can use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Ben Hallert<EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Crud!  She did seem like a good person to know and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> natural
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   an amenable landlord.  Might there be value in reaching out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if she has any other property that's just not listed there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be aware of?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:33 AM, James Hukill<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      IMHO upstairs shop means all that heavy, heavy equipment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   lugged up there.. and I for one, can't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So for me.. show stopper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice lady though, pretty sure she owns the buildings and was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that did our EMS logo on the shop coats.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Mr. Clif<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Yep Agreed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Do you guys think that is a show stopper or should we take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          Clif
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Hallert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      It does not look wheelchair accessible and the lack of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground-level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space makes member work on vehicles or projects like the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bicycle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trailer we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just completed unfeasible or, at best, complicated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Mr. Clif<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       Heard back from The Realtor for 1000 Obie which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closer
>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     She said it has three large workshop like rooms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upstairs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMS would be a perfect fit, and seemed excited to talk to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us.
>>>>> From
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picture you can see that there is just one outside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starway to
>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are many offices downstairs, the upstairs only has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sink that *could* be made into an office in a pinch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downstairs offices can be carved off for us for an extra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cost.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that then there is also an inside staircase we can use. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad that the offices aren't upstairs and the shop on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> floor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C'est la vie. So lets say we wanted some office space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then it
>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $1200 + something like $200 - $300 extra? So that would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the 175 Danebo place. for maybe a little less total
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space.
>>>>> We can schedule a visit either tomorrow or next week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Comments?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Clif
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Clif wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       Also I just drove by this place which I think is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> silk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or embroidery ladies place:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> It's upstairs so that might be a show stopper, not sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> office
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space in the picture is part of that or not because that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downstairs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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