[EMS Discuss] Help us find a new home!

Rick Osgood EMAIL HIDDEN
Fri Sep 13 09:50:12 PDT 2013


I think those are good questions Clif.  I can't remember if there were any
more on top of those.


On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:

> I looked up zoning information on the 1010 grant space and here's what I
> found.  It's zoned S-C Chambers Special Area with a subarea designation of
> C-2.  So I guess they consider it S-C/C-2.  There's a TON of stuff about
> what you can or can't do in each zone, but in terms of will we fit into the
> zone purpose, I think these are the most relevant parts of the zoning code:
>
> *Purpose of S-C Chambers Special Area Zone:*
>
> 1) Protect and maintain healthy existing residential neighborhoods by
> ensuring compatible design for infill development in terms of mass scale
> orientation and set back to complement patterns in the existing neighborhood
>
> 2) Promote a general increase in density with a mix of multi-family and
> single family residential development that contributes positively to the
> neighborhood pattern of single family detached dwellings
>
> 3) Protect existing commercial businesses, encourage commercial infill,
> redevelopment and development with design standards that support the
> neighborhood cohesiveness
>
> 4) Create transitions between higher intensity commercial land uses and
> residential neighborhoods, in terms of building heights, set backs, and
> building facades,
>
> 5) Establish, strengthen, and maintain a high quality urban environment
> with compatible commercial, residential, and industrial use,
>
> 6) Create a pedestrian friendly environment.
>
>
> I think that EMS can argue for number 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6.  Number 2 doesn't
> seem to really apply to us but I also don't see how it applies to a bicycle
> shop or a print shop (two previous tenants).  Other interesting things I
> found about the zoning:
>
> 1) We are not permitted outdoor storage.
>
> 2) Not allowed outdoor "merchandise display".  Not sure if this would
> count towards showcasing projects since we aren't selling those things.  I
> imagine it would probably be fine but you never know.
>
> 3) If we have outdoor garbage storage areas then they must be screened on
> all sides and things inside must not be visible from adjacent properties.
>
> 4) There are codes specifically for amateur radio antennas.  For example
> how high then are allowed to be (70 feet from ground) but the higher you go
> the farther away from the property lines it must be.
>
> 5) If I'm reading the code correctly we might be required to have 1
> bicycle parking space per 500sqft of space.  This applies to artist
> gallery/studio space, which I think might be closest to what we are.
>
>
> There's tons of stuff in the Eugene City Code so I'm sure there's more
> that's applicable to us and possibly this stuff isn't really applicable and
> I read it wrong.  I'm not sure how much of this stuff even gets enforced,
> but it's good to know about because someone might complain and then we'll
> likely have to comply.
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> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Rick Osgood <EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>
>> What are the options on the lease term?  I don't think we would want to
>> go longer than 1 year at a time but 6 months but be better for us in case
>> something happens and we just can't afford the rent.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM, <EMAIL HIDDEN> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 1010 Grant:  Will it remain up for sale?
>>>
>>> > Hi Guys,
>>> >
>>> > Ok I just updated the pictures and some other things on the wiki:
>>> >
>>> > https://www.eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/Sites/NewSpaceSearch
>>> >
>>> > Oh Marie, The address that we need zoning info for is 1121 Fairfield
>>> > <
>>> https://www.eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/pub/Sites/NewSpaceSearch/1121_Fairfield.pdf
>>> >.
>>> > It's an office building and we want to know if we could put a shop
>>> > there. In the past it has been a call center and a light manufacturing
>>> > company called NW Web. It's good to let the city planners know that you
>>> > know what has been there before. You might ask if there would be any
>>> > SDCs something like Supplemental ____ Charges.
>>> >
>>> > If you send me the Q's for 1010 Grant I'll ask them tomorrow. what were
>>> > they? moving walls, maximum repair costs we would be responsible for eg
>>> > Modified Gross or NNN stuff. what else?
>>> >
>>> >      Ciao!
>>> >      Clif
>>> >
>>> > Marie Slatton-Valle wrote:
>>> >> Cord and I are coming also.  What time are we viewing the locations?
>>> >>
>>> >> Marie
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Ok Noon it is! remember, *You* asked for it! ;-)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>      Clif
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Mark Danburg-Wyld wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> I agree two hours is probably longer than we need - especially if we
>>> >>>> establish that there's no easy way to get heavy stuff upstairs in
>>> the
>>> >>>> first
>>> >>>> few minutes... I'd be ok with a second trip to the area at 4, but
>>> if you
>>> >>>> want to make them back to back I think noon is probably feasible.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Rick Osgood<EMAIL HIDDEN
>>> >
>>> >>>>   wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>   I feel like 2 hours is too much time almost. If they are kind of
>>> close I
>>> >>>>> would think an hour would be enough time. Maybe I'm being
>>> optimistic.
>>> >>>>>    On Sep 7, 2013 9:53 AM, "Mr. Clif"<EMAIL HIDDEN>   wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>   Cool!
>>> >>>>>> Hopefully some of the people checking out the obie property today
>>> will
>>> >>>>>> check in with a suggested time so I can give this guy some
>>> notice. :-)
>>> >>>>>> Lets
>>> >>>>>> see that would be, Mark, Rick, and Bob right?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>       Clif
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Cord Slatton wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>   I would be interested in looking at that space
>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2013 9:43 AM, "Mr. Clif"<EMAIL HIDDEN>    wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>    Good Morning folks!
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Guess what? I can schedule a viewing of the 3395 W 7th space
>>> (The
>>> >>>>>>>> least
>>> >>>>>>>> expensive in Eugene, and the second cheapest cost per sqft) for
>>> today!
>>> >>>>>>>> The
>>> >>>>>>>> current tennents will show it to us, and their preference is
>>> for 4:00
>>> >>>>>>>> PM
>>> >>>>>>>> today but they are flexable and will drop what they are doing
>>> to show
>>> >>>>>>>> it
>>> >>>>>>>> closer to when we are done with the Obie won Konobi proberty!
>>> How long
>>> >>>>>>>> should that take like two hours, less? Should we schedule it
>>> for 1:00
>>> >>>>>>>> ?
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>        Please let me know, :-)
>>> >>>>>>>>        Clif
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Mr. Clif wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>    There is an easy answer, all the info for all the properties
>>> we are
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> talking about is in one place! :-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Here: https://www.eugenemakerspace.******com/wiki/Sites/**
>>> >>>>>>>>> NewSpaceSearch<https://www.**e**ugenemakerspace.com/wiki/**<
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>>> >>>>>>>>>
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>>> >>>>>>>>> Sites/NewSpaceSearch<
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>>> >>>>>>>>>        Clif :-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>    I seem to have lost the thread on this property.  What are
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>> specs?
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>     Well ok, here are a few pix of the 3395 space:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
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>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pictures: http://www.eugeneweb.com/******
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> gallery2/v/clif/Geeky/EMS/**<
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>>> >>>>>>>>>>>          Clif
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>    I think second-story walk-up is a deal killer, too.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Darrell
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>     I am not impressed with Dadibo (to far out) or the
>>> second
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>   story place (my Segbot weighs 100 lbs when completed and
>>> my
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 seat bike will never fit up the stairs). Under Code Chops
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is great but to expensive. Lets not get to enthusiastic
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> about moving so we move for only marginal improvements. So
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> far none of the places are that great. The place in the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Whit, what's with the price there? It can't be market
>>> value,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> we can do better.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Greg Norman
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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