[EMS Discuss] Help us find a new home!

Mr. Clif EMAIL HIDDEN
Fri Sep 13 11:20:12 PDT 2013


Thats great info Rick,

thanks for digging that up. Was the C-2 code about the same?

     Clif

Rick Osgood wrote:
> I looked up zoning information on the 1010 grant space and here's what I
> found.  It's zoned S-C Chambers Special Area with a subarea designation of
> C-2.  So I guess they consider it S-C/C-2.  There's a TON of stuff about
> what you can or can't do in each zone, but in terms of will we fit into the
> zone purpose, I think these are the most relevant parts of the zoning code:
>
> *Purpose of S-C Chambers Special Area Zone:*
>
> 1) Protect and maintain healthy existing residential neighborhoods by
> ensuring compatible design for infill development in terms of mass scale
> orientation and set back to complement patterns in the existing neighborhood
>
> 2) Promote a general increase in density with a mix of multi-family and
> single family residential development that contributes positively to the
> neighborhood pattern of single family detached dwellings
>
> 3) Protect existing commercial businesses, encourage commercial infill,
> redevelopment and development with design standards that support the
> neighborhood cohesiveness
>
> 4) Create transitions between higher intensity commercial land uses and
> residential neighborhoods, in terms of building heights, set backs, and
> building facades,
>
> 5) Establish, strengthen, and maintain a high quality urban environment
> with compatible commercial, residential, and industrial use,
>
> 6) Create a pedestrian friendly environment.
>
>
> I think that EMS can argue for number 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6.  Number 2 doesn't
> seem to really apply to us but I also don't see how it applies to a bicycle
> shop or a print shop (two previous tenants).  Other interesting things I
> found about the zoning:
>
> 1) We are not permitted outdoor storage.
>
> 2) Not allowed outdoor "merchandise display".  Not sure if this would count
> towards showcasing projects since we aren't selling those things.  I
> imagine it would probably be fine but you never know.
>
> 3) If we have outdoor garbage storage areas then they must be screened on
> all sides and things inside must not be visible from adjacent properties.
>
> 4) There are codes specifically for amateur radio antennas.  For example
> how high then are allowed to be (70 feet from ground) but the higher you go
> the farther away from the property lines it must be.
>
> 5) If I'm reading the code correctly we might be required to have 1 bicycle
> parking space per 500sqft of space.  This applies to artist gallery/studio
> space, which I think might be closest to what we are.
>
>
> There's tons of stuff in the Eugene City Code so I'm sure there's more
> that's applicable to us and possibly this stuff isn't really applicable and
> I read it wrong.  I'm not sure how much of this stuff even gets enforced,
> but it's good to know about because someone might complain and then we'll
> likely have to comply.
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> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Rick Osgood<EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>
>> What are the options on the lease term?  I don't think we would want to go
>> longer than 1 year at a time but 6 months but be better for us in case
>> something happens and we just can't afford the rent.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM,<EMAIL HIDDEN>  wrote:
>>
>>> 1010 Grant:  Will it remain up for sale?
>>>
>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>
>>>> Ok I just updated the pictures and some other things on the wiki:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/Sites/NewSpaceSearch
>>>>
>>>> Oh Marie, The address that we need zoning info for is 1121 Fairfield
>>>> <
>>> https://www.eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/pub/Sites/NewSpaceSearch/1121_Fairfield.pdf
>>>> .
>>>> It's an office building and we want to know if we could put a shop
>>>> there. In the past it has been a call center and a light manufacturing
>>>> company called NW Web. It's good to let the city planners know that you
>>>> know what has been there before. You might ask if there would be any
>>>> SDCs something like Supplemental ____ Charges.
>>>>
>>>> If you send me the Q's for 1010 Grant I'll ask them tomorrow. what were
>>>> they? moving walls, maximum repair costs we would be responsible for eg
>>>> Modified Gross or NNN stuff. what else?
>>>>
>>>>       Ciao!
>>>>       Clif
>>>>
>>>> Marie Slatton-Valle wrote:
>>>>> Cord and I are coming also.  What time are we viewing the locations?
>>>>>
>>>>> Marie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok Noon it is! remember, *You* asked for it! ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Clif
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark Danburg-Wyld wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree two hours is probably longer than we need - especially if we
>>>>>>> establish that there's no easy way to get heavy stuff upstairs in the
>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>> few minutes... I'd be ok with a second trip to the area at 4, but if
>>> you
>>>>>>> want to make them back to back I think noon is probably feasible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Rick Osgood<EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    I feel like 2 hours is too much time almost. If they are kind of
>>> close I
>>>>>>>> would think an hour would be enough time. Maybe I'm being
>>> optimistic.
>>>>>>>>     On Sep 7, 2013 9:53 AM, "Mr. Clif"<EMAIL HIDDEN>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Cool!
>>>>>>>>> Hopefully some of the people checking out the obie property today
>>> will
>>>>>>>>> check in with a suggested time so I can give this guy some notice.
>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>> Lets
>>>>>>>>> see that would be, Mark, Rick, and Bob right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        Clif
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cord Slatton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    I would be interested in looking at that space
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2013 9:43 AM, "Mr. Clif"<EMAIL HIDDEN>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Good Morning folks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Guess what? I can schedule a viewing of the 3395 W 7th space (The
>>>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>>> expensive in Eugene, and the second cheapest cost per sqft) for
>>> today!
>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> current tennents will show it to us, and their preference is for
>>> 4:00
>>>>>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>> today but they are flexable and will drop what they are doing to
>>> show
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> closer to when we are done with the Obie won Konobi proberty!
>>> How long
>>>>>>>>>>> should that take like two hours, less? Should we schedule it for
>>> 1:00
>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Please let me know, :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>         Clif
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Clif wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     There is an easy answer, all the info for all the properties
>>> we are
>>>>>>>>>>>> talking about is in one place! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here: https://www.eugenemakerspace.******com/wiki/Sites/**
>>>>>>>>>>>> NewSpaceSearch<https://www.**e**ugenemakerspace.com/wiki/**<
>>> http://eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/**>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sites/NewSpaceSearch<https://**www.eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/**
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sites/NewSpaceSearch<
>>> https://www.eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/Sites/NewSpaceSearch>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Clif :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     I seem to have lost the thread on this property.  What are
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> specs?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Well ok, here are a few pix of the 3395 space:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Satellite view:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pictures: http://www.eugeneweb.com/******
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Clif
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I think second-story walk-up is a deal killer, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Darrell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      I am not impressed with Dadibo (to far out) or the second
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    story place (my Segbot weighs 100 lbs when completed and my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 seat bike will never fit up the stairs). Under Code Chops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is great but to expensive. Lets not get to enthusiastic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about moving so we move for only marginal improvements. So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far none of the places are that great. The place in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whit, what's with the price there? It can't be market value,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we can do better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greg Norman
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