[EMS Discuss] 4611 Franklin

Mr. Clif EMAIL HIDDEN
Sun Sep 15 09:58:56 PDT 2013


Good Morning,

here are the pictures: 
http://www.eugeneweb.com/gallery2/v/clif/Geeky/EMS/4611Franklin/

If you want to make a case for further review of this property then let 
the group know, otherwise I will move it to the not workable section of 
the page:

https://www.eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/Sites/NewSpaceSearch

     Ciao! :-)
     Clif

Mr. Clif wrote:
> Hi Gang,
>
> well we saw 4611 Franklin, and the general consensus is that we will 
> pass because it's too much work and too far out for most people. Even 
> though they would give us N months free rent just so we would have 
> time to fix the electrical, insulate it etc... They also wanted a two 
> or three year lease so that's a problem as well.
>
> However the Realtor lady was very nice and will help us look for more 
> spaces, even suggested one on 2nd and Grant. Though I'm not holding my 
> breath on that one.
>
> She also educated us that triple net is the absolute BEST deal we 
> could hope for because we're a non-profit and can have the property 
> taxes waved. So I'm thinking the more we learn the better decisions we 
> can make on these things.
>
> I will upload the pictures tomorrow I guess, I have to get ready for a 
> potluck after all it's Eugene Right? :-)
>
>     Ciao,
>     Clif
>
> Kevin King wrote:
>> I am on my way to the Franklin space. I will be there.
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:15 AM, "Mr. Clif"<EMAIL HIDDEN>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> Well as some of you know the Realtor sadly isn't available this 
>>> Friday afternoon to show the property, howerver we have scheduled a 
>>> viewing for tomorrow (Saturday) afternoon at 3:00 PM. I know many of 
>>> you can't make that but if some of you can then please join us. :-)
>>>
>>>     Ciao,
>>>     Clif
>>>
>>> EMAIL HIDDEN wrote:
>>>> OK (and responding to your other email), I guess if it isn't 
>>>> really, truly triple net then we can look at the contract.
>>>>
>>>> I can't make any of the times mentioned, I don't think.
>>>>
>>>> Please revise my comment below:  W. 7th. has 1100 square feet more 
>>>> of immediately available indoor storage.
>>>>
>>>> -Darrell
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just talked with the Realtor, and she can't show it on Friday, but 
>>>>> she
>>>>> has time tomorrow, Sat afternoon, or Sun. She told me a few new 
>>>>> things
>>>>> about the space.
>>>>>
>>>>> It actually is half office space so 1200 sqft and 1200 shop space. It
>>>>> needs some work inside. The lease is structured as modified gross. So
>>>>> like a triple net we have to pay all repairs and remodels. However 
>>>>> the
>>>>> owner fixes all things outside and structural, and we are responsible
>>>>> for anything inside that is not structural like broken water 
>>>>> pipes, or
>>>>> walls and cabinetry.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what days and times work for you guys?
>>>>>
>>>>>       Clif
>>>>>
>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN wrote:
>>>>>> I agree this one needs to be checked out, but if we can afford W. 
>>>>>> 7th. then that offers at least 500 additional
>>>>>> square
>>>>>> feet which can be immediately used for indoor storage.  (Does 
>>>>>> anyone know, is the Franklin place 2400 total, 600 of
>>>>>> which is office, or is it 3000 total?)  And building a 
>>>>>> weatherproof building of any size is not cheap.  Building an
>>>>>> indoor storage deck would be much cheaper, and the office at W. 
>>>>>> 7th. is already a sizable storage deck rated for
>>>>>> 5000
>>>>>> pounds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing to note from the Google Earth view of the Franklin 
>>>>>> property:  The back of the shop appears to be all of 30
>>>>>> feet from one person's trailer and about 60-70 feet from a half 
>>>>>> dozen others.  Noise could be an issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Darrell
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to check out this space too.  I was talking with Kass 
>>>>>>> and she
>>>>>>> noted that if there's outdoor space like we see, then there's an
>>>>>>> opportunity to put in extra outdoor storage, possibly a shed.  
>>>>>>> Storage has
>>>>>>> been our bane and this could make a big difference.  A 
>>>>>>> centralized shop to
>>>>>>> draw in members from Springfield could be huge for the group 
>>>>>>> too, plus it's
>>>>>>> close enough to LCC to make it something that maybe we can get LCC
>>>>>>> educators to mention in their classes and more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BRING next door could potentially unlock a whole new class of 
>>>>>>> project; easy
>>>>>>> access to BIG THINGS could mean BIG, COOL STUFF.  :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Ben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Rick 
>>>>>>> Osgood<EMAIL HIDDEN>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am interested in looking at the 4611 Franklin space.  I have 
>>>>>>>> a feeling
>>>>>>>> some members will find it a big inconvenience being that far 
>>>>>>>> east but I
>>>>>>>> think it's worth a look.  I did like the idea someone else 
>>>>>>>> mentioned of the
>>>>>>>> location being somewhat central to Eugene AND Springfield, 
>>>>>>>> potentially
>>>>>>>> putting us in a better position to be THE makerspace for the 
>>>>>>>> entire area.
>>>>>>>>    Of course the location is not what our current members voted 
>>>>>>>> on as being
>>>>>>>> "ideal".  And I'd hate to lose any current members of course.  
>>>>>>>> Still worth
>>>>>>>> a look.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Mr. 
>>>>>>>> Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok you're right,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Glenwood is closer than Danebo. Does anyone want to look at 
>>>>>>>>> that place? I
>>>>>>>>> can ask the Realtor. Sorry about the subject change. ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       Clif
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cord Slatton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is anywhere in Glenwood farther than danebo? It isn't in 
>>>>>>>>>> Eugene...and our
>>>>>>>>>> name is Eugene maker space though...
>>>>>>>>>    On Sep 10, 2013 2:48 PM, "Mr. Clif"<EMAIL HIDDEN>     
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>    Not that I know of,
>>>>>>>>>>> also I *think* that it would be vetoed by the bicyclists 
>>>>>>>>>>> because it's
>>>>>>>>>>> farther out than 175 S Danebo. Can anyone speak to this?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>        Clif
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Hallert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    The Franklin location looks amazing.  $.50 a square foot, 
>>>>>>>>>>> no triple
>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff to worry about, and there looks to be open space 
>>>>>>>>>>>> around the
>>>>>>>>>>>> building.  Anyone been inside?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Mr. Clif<EMAIL HIDDEN>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Yes I agree the W 7th space is at the top of my list so 
>>>>>>>>>>>> far...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and probably will remain there but see next post ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Clif
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMAIL HIDDEN wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The Olive location appears to be stair access only.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can look,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Franklin looks promising, but doesn't seem to offer any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advantage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over W
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7th except being slightly cheaper, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smaller.  Glenwood might be considered centrally located 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for all of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eugene/Springfield.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Front runner in my book is currently W. 7th.  Size, price,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cleanliness/attractiveness, and security are all good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location is as good as our current spot, probably 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slightly better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Darrell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Hi Gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    found some new listings today. Part of the basment in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 8th and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building which is smack downtown is available for 40c / 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sqft. at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $1868
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it might be almost more than we can afford but most of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downtown is over a buck a sqft so if you really want to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worth a look. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another space is 4611 Franklin seems very cute and only 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $1200 / mo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most of the way to Springfield.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As always the updated info is at:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eugenemakerspace.******com/wiki/Sites/****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NewSpaceSearch<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.**eugenemakerspace**.com/wiki/**Sites/**NewSpaceSearch<http://eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/**Sites/NewSpaceSearch> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Ciao,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Clif
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