[EMS Discuss] Target range - Elephant in the room?

Benjamin Hallert ben at vipmail.com
Fri Feb 7 16:11:40 PST 2014


If we need to transport it, I have a small truckbed trailer that might be able to handle it. I can bring the trailer by the shop and we can brainstorm to see if it could move it or not.- Ben

On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Rick Osgood <rick at richardosgood.com>
wrote:

> I do realize it's not going anywhere until the snow and ice is melted.  We
> need an answer for who is doing what and when so it doesn't sit around for
> another month or two while everyone waits for someone else to do something.
>  I don't see why someone can't commit to taking it and just say when they
> think they can do it.  If no one commits to taking it then we have to break
> it down.
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Mr. Clif <clif at eugeneweb.com> wrote:
>>  Well why don't we talk about it next week when the roads are clear again.
>> Though I was just out having fun in my truck.
>> Also it won't fit in my truck because of the camper shell so we'll either
>> need a trailer or another truck.
>>
>>     Ciao!
>>     Clif
>>
>>
>> On 02/07/2014 03:55 PM, Rick Osgood wrote:
>>
>> OK it sounds like maybe the plan is to move the target range somewhere
>> else.  Clif was the only person who seemed to know an off site location
>> suitable.  Who is going to bring the project there and when?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Weston Turner <wstnturner at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your input Taper,
>>>
>>> I like the idea of off-siting it too. That way the project can at least
>>> be resumed at a later date, and it won't be taking up space at the
>>> Makerspace. It seems like a good compromise solution to me.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Weston
>>>
>>> > On Feb 7, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Taper Wickel <taper at waxwolf.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I was the only other person besides Cord working on it -- and I'll
>>> > have no time to work on it for quite a while, what with stuff.  I kind
>>> > of like the idea of off-siting it for a while, but if no one else
>>> > wants to work on it going forward it might be best to tear it down.
>>> >
>>> > Taper.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Rick Osgood <rick at richardosgood.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> Just a reminder that it's been just about a week since this was sent
>>> out.
>>> >> Has the team decided what to do?  I only heard two people chime in that
>>> >> disassembling it was reasonable but that there was also possible
>>> storage for
>>> >> the project as-is in Veneta.  Any more thoughts?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Mr. Clif <clif at eugeneweb.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I can offer some offsite storage for the shooting gallery in Veneta.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>    Clif
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 01/31/2014 08:18 AM, Rick Osgood wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> During the space improvement night we got to discussing the target
>>> >>> shooting range project again.  This can be a touchy subject because
>>> some
>>> >>> members put a lot of time and money into this project already.  Some
>>> other
>>> >>> members feel that it takes up too much space for the value it brings
>>> to EMS,
>>> >>> and some also question the value it would bring even if it was
>>> finished and
>>> >>> functional (in comparison to the space it takes up)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We've had several email threads about this subject in the past and
>>> they
>>> >>> generally end with people saying they don't want to scrap the project
>>> and
>>> >>> they will help out on the project, but only a couple of people ever
>>> seem to
>>> >>> actually follow through.  And unfortunately those people don't have
>>> the time
>>> >>> or funding to finish it right now.  At this point something has to be
>>> done.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We believe there are a few options for this project:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Option 1. We can disassemble the project.  People can take their stuff
>>> >>> back and useful unclaimed parts can go into bins for public use.
>>>  Maybe we
>>> >>> can save some pieces for display?  Like Bob the robot or the awesome
>>> ammo
>>> >>> case with guns inside.  Anything that can be displayed without taking
>>> up too
>>> >>> much space.  The rest gets recycled or thrown away.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Option 2. The team needs to start paying for project storage as per
>>> the
>>> >>> EMS storage policy.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Option 3. If the team doesn't want to pay, the team needs to get 51%
>>> of
>>> >>> the membership to approve the project as a sponsored project as per
>>> the EMS
>>> >>> storage policy.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Option 4. The team can take the project off site to store it/work on
>>> it
>>> >>> until they can find the time to put more work into it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I think it would be fair to take a week to discuss this and let the
>>> >>> members who are involved make a decision.  Then we can move forward
>>> as a
>>> >>> community from there.  Let's have the discussion in this thread and
>>> figure
>>> >>> it out.  I'll send out an update on 2/7/2014 so this isn't forgotten.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Rick
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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