[EMS Discuss] Target range - Elephant in the room?

Rick Osgood rick at richardosgood.com
Thu Feb 20 15:46:50 PST 2014


Is anyone planning to come on Saturday and help tear this thing down?  I
haven't even heard anyone say that they want any of the parts from it.


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Rick Osgood <rick at richardosgood.com> wrote:

> It's been a week and there has been no movement on this.  I'm scheduling a *tear
> down* day for *Saturday, February 22 at 1:00PM*. If someone wants to haul
> the thing away for off-site storage before then, that's fine.  I know Cord
> has mentioned that he wants the bike trailers before it gets stored off
> site somewhere so just make sure you talk to him about that first.  Also,
> if you take it, please announce it here so everyone knows who did what, and
> why.
>
> If you have some parts on the target gallery that you need saved and you
> can't make it to the tear down, please make it known publicly so they can
> be set aside for you.  Maybe we can bring some beers and pizza and make
> this fun?  We'll iron out the details as the day approaches.  I have it on
> the EMS calendar.  If you like to break things apart, please show up and
> help out.  The more people we have, ideally the more fun it will be and the
> faster we will get this done.
>
> Rick
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Benjamin Hallert <ben at vipmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If we need to transport it, I have a small truckbed trailer that might be
>> able to handle it. I can bring the trailer by the shop and we can
>> brainstorm to see if it could move it or not.
>> - Ben
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Rick Osgood <rick at richardosgood.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I do realize it's not going anywhere until the snow and ice is melted.
>>>  We need an answer for who is doing what and when so it doesn't sit around
>>> for another month or two while everyone waits for someone else to do
>>> something.  I don't see why someone can't commit to taking it and just say
>>> when they think they can do it.  If no one commits to taking it then we
>>> have to break it down.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Mr. Clif <clif at eugeneweb.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Well why don't we talk about it next week when the roads are clear
>>>> again. Though I was just out having fun in my truck.
>>>> Also it won't fit in my truck because of the camper shell so we'll
>>>> either need a trailer or another truck.
>>>>
>>>>     Ciao!
>>>>     Clif
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/07/2014 03:55 PM, Rick Osgood wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK it sounds like maybe the plan is to move the target range somewhere
>>>> else.  Clif was the only person who seemed to know an off site location
>>>> suitable.  Who is going to bring the project there and when?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Weston Turner <wstnturner at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your input Taper,
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the idea of off-siting it too. That way the project can at
>>>>> least be resumed at a later date, and it won't be taking up space at the
>>>>> Makerspace. It seems like a good compromise solution to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Weston
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Feb 7, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Taper Wickel <taper at waxwolf.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I was the only other person besides Cord working on it -- and I'll
>>>>> > have no time to work on it for quite a while, what with stuff.  I
>>>>> kind
>>>>> > of like the idea of off-siting it for a while, but if no one else
>>>>> > wants to work on it going forward it might be best to tear it down.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Taper.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Rick Osgood <
>>>>> rick at richardosgood.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> Just a reminder that it's been just about a week since this was
>>>>> sent out.
>>>>> >> Has the team decided what to do?  I only heard two people chime in
>>>>> that
>>>>> >> disassembling it was reasonable but that there was also possible
>>>>> storage for
>>>>> >> the project as-is in Veneta.  Any more thoughts?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Mr. Clif <clif at eugeneweb.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I can offer some offsite storage for the shooting gallery in
>>>>> Veneta.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>    Clif
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On 01/31/2014 08:18 AM, Rick Osgood wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> During the space improvement night we got to discussing the target
>>>>> >>> shooting range project again.  This can be a touchy subject
>>>>> because some
>>>>> >>> members put a lot of time and money into this project already.
>>>>>  Some other
>>>>> >>> members feel that it takes up too much space for the value it
>>>>> brings to EMS,
>>>>> >>> and some also question the value it would bring even if it was
>>>>> finished and
>>>>> >>> functional (in comparison to the space it takes up)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> We've had several email threads about this subject in the past and
>>>>> they
>>>>> >>> generally end with people saying they don't want to scrap the
>>>>> project and
>>>>> >>> they will help out on the project, but only a couple of people
>>>>> ever seem to
>>>>> >>> actually follow through.  And unfortunately those people don't
>>>>> have the time
>>>>> >>> or funding to finish it right now.  At this point something has to
>>>>> be done.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> We believe there are a few options for this project:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Option 1. We can disassemble the project.  People can take their
>>>>> stuff
>>>>> >>> back and useful unclaimed parts can go into bins for public use.
>>>>>  Maybe we
>>>>> >>> can save some pieces for display?  Like Bob the robot or the
>>>>> awesome ammo
>>>>> >>> case with guns inside.  Anything that can be displayed without
>>>>> taking up too
>>>>> >>> much space.  The rest gets recycled or thrown away.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Option 2. The team needs to start paying for project storage as
>>>>> per the
>>>>> >>> EMS storage policy.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Option 3. If the team doesn't want to pay, the team needs to get
>>>>> 51% of
>>>>> >>> the membership to approve the project as a sponsored project as
>>>>> per the EMS
>>>>> >>> storage policy.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Option 4. The team can take the project off site to store it/work
>>>>> on it
>>>>> >>> until they can find the time to put more work into it.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I think it would be fair to take a week to discuss this and let the
>>>>> >>> members who are involved make a decision.  Then we can move
>>>>> forward as a
>>>>> >>> community from there.  Let's have the discussion in this thread
>>>>> and figure
>>>>> >>> it out.  I'll send out an update on 2/7/2014 so this isn't
>>>>> forgotten.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Rick
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
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