[EMS Discuss] Target range - Elephant in the room?

Ben Hallert ben at hallert.net
Thu Feb 20 15:48:30 PST 2014


If it gets torn down, I want to participate and claim some parts.  If
anyone is invested in transporting it to the mysterious Veneta deep freeze
storage compound, I have a trailer and can probably haul it with
assistance.

Ben

- Ben


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Rick Osgood <rick at richardosgood.com> wrote:

> Is anyone planning to come on Saturday and help tear this thing down?  I
> haven't even heard anyone say that they want any of the parts from it.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Rick Osgood <rick at richardosgood.com>wrote:
>
>> It's been a week and there has been no movement on this.  I'm
>> scheduling a *tear down* day for *Saturday, February 22 at 1:00PM*. If
>> someone wants to haul the thing away for off-site storage before then,
>> that's fine.  I know Cord has mentioned that he wants the bike trailers
>> before it gets stored off site somewhere so just make sure you talk to him
>> about that first.  Also, if you take it, please announce it here so
>> everyone knows who did what, and why.
>>
>> If you have some parts on the target gallery that you need saved and you
>> can't make it to the tear down, please make it known publicly so they can
>> be set aside for you.  Maybe we can bring some beers and pizza and make
>> this fun?  We'll iron out the details as the day approaches.  I have it on
>> the EMS calendar.  If you like to break things apart, please show up and
>> help out.  The more people we have, ideally the more fun it will be and the
>> faster we will get this done.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Benjamin Hallert <ben at vipmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If we need to transport it, I have a small truckbed trailer that might
>>> be able to handle it. I can bring the trailer by the shop and we can
>>> brainstorm to see if it could move it or not.
>>> - Ben
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Rick Osgood <rick at richardosgood.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do realize it's not going anywhere until the snow and ice is melted.
>>>>  We need an answer for who is doing what and when so it doesn't sit around
>>>> for another month or two while everyone waits for someone else to do
>>>> something.  I don't see why someone can't commit to taking it and just say
>>>> when they think they can do it.  If no one commits to taking it then we
>>>> have to break it down.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Mr. Clif <clif at eugeneweb.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Well why don't we talk about it next week when the roads are clear
>>>>> again. Though I was just out having fun in my truck.
>>>>> Also it won't fit in my truck because of the camper shell so we'll
>>>>> either need a trailer or another truck.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Ciao!
>>>>>     Clif
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/07/2014 03:55 PM, Rick Osgood wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK it sounds like maybe the plan is to move the target range somewhere
>>>>> else.  Clif was the only person who seemed to know an off site location
>>>>> suitable.  Who is going to bring the project there and when?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Weston Turner <wstnturner at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your input Taper,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like the idea of off-siting it too. That way the project can at
>>>>>> least be resumed at a later date, and it won't be taking up space at the
>>>>>> Makerspace. It seems like a good compromise solution to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Weston
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Feb 7, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Taper Wickel <taper at waxwolf.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I was the only other person besides Cord working on it -- and I'll
>>>>>> > have no time to work on it for quite a while, what with stuff.  I
>>>>>> kind
>>>>>> > of like the idea of off-siting it for a while, but if no one else
>>>>>> > wants to work on it going forward it might be best to tear it down.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Taper.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Rick Osgood <
>>>>>> rick at richardosgood.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> Just a reminder that it's been just about a week since this was
>>>>>> sent out.
>>>>>> >> Has the team decided what to do?  I only heard two people chime in
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >> disassembling it was reasonable but that there was also possible
>>>>>> storage for
>>>>>> >> the project as-is in Veneta.  Any more thoughts?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Mr. Clif <clif at eugeneweb.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I can offer some offsite storage for the shooting gallery in
>>>>>> Veneta.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>    Clif
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On 01/31/2014 08:18 AM, Rick Osgood wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> During the space improvement night we got to discussing the target
>>>>>> >>> shooting range project again.  This can be a touchy subject
>>>>>> because some
>>>>>> >>> members put a lot of time and money into this project already.
>>>>>>  Some other
>>>>>> >>> members feel that it takes up too much space for the value it
>>>>>> brings to EMS,
>>>>>> >>> and some also question the value it would bring even if it was
>>>>>> finished and
>>>>>> >>> functional (in comparison to the space it takes up)
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> We've had several email threads about this subject in the past
>>>>>> and they
>>>>>> >>> generally end with people saying they don't want to scrap the
>>>>>> project and
>>>>>> >>> they will help out on the project, but only a couple of people
>>>>>> ever seem to
>>>>>> >>> actually follow through.  And unfortunately those people don't
>>>>>> have the time
>>>>>> >>> or funding to finish it right now.  At this point something has
>>>>>> to be done.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> We believe there are a few options for this project:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Option 1. We can disassemble the project.  People can take their
>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>> >>> back and useful unclaimed parts can go into bins for public use.
>>>>>>  Maybe we
>>>>>> >>> can save some pieces for display?  Like Bob the robot or the
>>>>>> awesome ammo
>>>>>> >>> case with guns inside.  Anything that can be displayed without
>>>>>> taking up too
>>>>>> >>> much space.  The rest gets recycled or thrown away.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Option 2. The team needs to start paying for project storage as
>>>>>> per the
>>>>>> >>> EMS storage policy.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Option 3. If the team doesn't want to pay, the team needs to get
>>>>>> 51% of
>>>>>> >>> the membership to approve the project as a sponsored project as
>>>>>> per the EMS
>>>>>> >>> storage policy.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Option 4. The team can take the project off site to store it/work
>>>>>> on it
>>>>>> >>> until they can find the time to put more work into it.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I think it would be fair to take a week to discuss this and let
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>> members who are involved make a decision.  Then we can move
>>>>>> forward as a
>>>>>> >>> community from there.  Let's have the discussion in this thread
>>>>>> and figure
>>>>>> >>> it out.  I'll send out an update on 2/7/2014 so this isn't
>>>>>> forgotten.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Rick
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
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