[EMS Discuss] Current shop layout

Rick Osgood rick at eugenemakerspace.com
Sun Jan 26 20:40:45 PST 2014

I definitely see how having a community hang out area is a benefit and I
want to clarify that I don't want to just get rid of that kind of space.  I
think there needs to be a good balance between having that type of
collaborative space, and usable shop space.  I think each member is going
to feel differently about what type of space, tools, or resources are most
important.  Some people might think wood shop tools are a priority whereas
others may feel that a space to work on their car is important.  Some might
think having a space to sit around with other people and talk about stuff
is key.  That's the nature of a community space like this.  It will likely
change over time as well.  We simply don't have enough room right now to
make all of those things easily accessible at all times.

I think we just need to look at what we already have and work to make
everything as usable as possible.  Let's find the things that are a pain in
the ass to use/move and set those up so they are always usable.  Anything
that is easily movable can be made "modular".  This might include folding
tables to setup for open hack nights/classes/etc.  Or maybe it includes
some of the smaller power tools that are easier to store and move.  It will
most likely be a combination of both.

I want to make sure we still have a community space.  I don't want to see
EMS become just a place where all you do is walk in, use some tools, and
leave.  Community is a big part of who we are.  But I do want to make sure
it's a place that I CAN walk in, use some tools, and leave if that's what I
want to do or if that's all I have time for.  We need to make sure people
can easily get physical work done in our shop space while others can easily
get software/electronics/etc work done.  We're all bright creative people
so I know we will figure something out.

On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Sam Foster <sam at sneetchworks.com> wrote:

>  Its not unusual for there to be limited to no space to sit with a
> project on the busier open hack nights. Those tables are vital on those
> nights at least. Yes, during the rest of the week they are taking up space
> that might be better used, but whatever new configuration you come up with
> (I don't think I can be there Weds) lets make sure we don't lose the
> ability to accommodate folks for those events.
> /Sam
> On 1/25/2014 11:34 AM, Rick Osgood wrote:
>  Tl;DR I want to rearrange the shop on Wednesday night at 6:00PM.
>  I was talking with some members last night about EMS and the current
> layout and we had some ideas for making the place more conducive to getting
> things done.  I know that myself and several others don't do a lot of work
> at EMS lately because it's a chore to even just think about having to move
> tools out of the way just to get to the tool you want to use.  Many of us
> would agree that we have outgrown our current space, but perhaps we can
> still rearrange things to do more with what we have while we still have it.
>  For example, we have this giant island of tables in the middle of our
> space.  On the one hand I think this is good for forcing people together on
> open hack nights to sit around and have discussions, work on smaller
> projects, etc.  But it takes up so much space and prevents people from
> being able to easily use many of the other tools, which means those tools
> are sitting around unused just taking up even more space.  Why do we need
> this giant table there all day every day?
>  I think this ties in well with some of the space committees goals to
> find ways to raise funding now so we can more easily afford to move into
> the space we need.  If we can make the place obviously conducive to making,
> maybe we can bring in and retain more members.  Also, I think it would be
> great if we can find the most efficient way to use our current space so
> that we can bring this attitude to the new space, rather than just throwing
> all our tools into some newer bigger space and letting the problem grow
> into a bigger space.
>  That being said, I plan to go to the shop on *Wednesday night at 6PM*and rearrange things to better suit our mission of allowing people to make.
>  Here are some ideas I have right now that I'd like to explore.
>  1. Get rid of the island of tables and the carpet and move some of the
> tools to the middle of the room (tablesaw?)
>  2. Possibly get rid of tables that do not fold up.  If we only keep
> folding tables, we can easily setup a smaller island for open hack nights
> or classes and then fold them away after each event so we have room to work
> during non "open" hours.
>  3. Swap some things around from the shop/office areas.  Maybe it would
> be better to move the wall of refrigerators into the small office and move
> some of the office tools into the shop somewhere.
>  4. Clean out the Pick a part area.  How much of that stuff do we really
> still need?  Is it worth lugging to a new space?  Maybe it's time to clean
> out most of that stuff, re-organize it, and then move some lesser used
> items from the shop out of the way to the upstairs storage.
>  5. Keeping things clean.  How can we make it super easy for people to
> clean up after themselves?  Let's make sure brooms, cleaning supplies, shop
> vac, are all easily accessible and not a chore to find/use.
>  This just a list of ideas to get us started.  If you want to contribute
> and get your opinion heard, come down to the shop on Wednesday night at
> 6:00PM to help.  If you can't make it, reply in this thread with your ideas
> and convince us they are awesome.
>  Rick
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