[EMS Discuss] [EMS Committee] [EMS Board] Agenda items, and Wallis walk through

Mark Danburg-Wyld danburgwyld at gmail.com
Wed Mar 5 19:23:18 PST 2014

>You folks know your organization and what you want out of it.

You're making at least two assumptions there, Eric. :-)

Can you spell out your offer in a bit more detail, please? As in, what's
the address of the space you've got? Is the space for EMS physically
separated from the space for Swim Left? Would EMS members have access to
your CNC machine as part of the deal? What kind of financial commitment are
you wanting from EMS? That kind of thing...

Personally, I would value a closer-to-town address over a lot of other
considerations. From the talk at CodeChops last week, it seems clear that
most everyone puts a lot of importance on maintaining their independence. I
personally think there's a lot of upside to letting go a little bit. And so
I look forward to hearing more about your offer.


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Eric Harvey <swimleft at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good Evening EMS members,
> The conversation that just cropped up is exactly why I am working on Swim
> Left Labs. Access to cnc equipment wildly increases the capabilities of a
> space and such equipment is critical for almost any project with commercial
> potential. Also, steel is awesome and working with steel is even more
> awesome.
> However, I recognize that for people who do not want/need this equipment
> they do not want to pay the increased cost of a membership that reflects
> such increased capabilities. Providing cnc equipment requires at least a
> path to certification on the equipment and on site staff to supervise
> general during open shop hours. Additionally, it requires capital.
> This is exactly why I have been trying to reach out the EMS. I can sign on
> the lease for a 2500 sqft space, provide cnc equipment and staff the space
> (me). By partnering, EMS can mitigate almost every risk I have seen
> discussed in this lengthy email chain. For me, I can offset my cost of
> providing common space. In my mind a partnership would look something like:
> Swim Left Labs  : 1100 sqft dedicated
> EMS                   : 800  sqft dedicated
> Common Space : 600  sqft shared
> Notably, Swim Left Labs would be the lessee and EMS would simply be a
> member of Swim Left Labs. Swim Left Labs will have more manufacturing
> capabilities and a higher price tag for access to such capabilities. Such
> an arrangement gives a lot of flexibility to both EMS and Swim Left Labs as
> a whole.
> My only condition is that I am not interested on wavering on such a
> partnership for months. You folks know your organization and what you want
> out of it. I know what I want with Swim Left Labs and I am going to pursue
> that. However, there is a lot of middle ground and it is a waste to have 2
> competing spaces in town. I am going to make myself available this weekend
> to meet with anyone and everyone at EMS who is interested in partnering.
> Feel free to call me on my cell phone: 303-887-5015.
> Best,
> Eric Harvey
> President | Swim Left Products, LLC
> 303-887-5015
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