[EMS Discuss] [EMS Committee] [EMS Board] Agenda items, and Wallis walk through

Cord Slatton cord42 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 6 06:26:28 PST 2014


In my opinion in a lot of ways our space is either unused or sits empty, so
I would be all for a similar sized space that was used better as the new
maker space location.

Cord


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Weston Turner <wstnturner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yea, what he said... Mark, I couldn't have put it better (in terms of the
> questions that you asked, and regarding valuing a "closer to town"
> address).
>
> Thanks for reaching out to us Eric, I like the sound of what you're
> saying, although being limited to 1400 sq feet with 600 sq feet of that
> shared is suboptimal. But can we have some specifics, i.e., concrete
> figures per Mark's questions?
>
> Thanks Mark,
> Weston
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Mark Danburg-Wyld <danburgwyld at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> >You folks know your organization and what you want out of it.
>>
>> You're making at least two assumptions there, Eric. :-)
>>
>> Can you spell out your offer in a bit more detail, please? As in, what's
>> the address of the space you've got? Is the space for EMS physically
>> separated from the space for Swim Left? Would EMS members have access to
>> your CNC machine as part of the deal? What kind of financial commitment are
>> you wanting from EMS? That kind of thing...
>>
>> Personally, I would value a closer-to-town address over a lot of other
>> considerations. From the talk at CodeChops last week, it seems clear that
>> most everyone puts a lot of importance on maintaining their independence. I
>> personally think there's a lot of upside to letting go a little bit. And so
>> I look forward to hearing more about your offer.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Eric Harvey <swimleft at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Good Evening EMS members,
>>>
>>> The conversation that just cropped up is exactly why I am working on
>>> Swim Left Labs. Access to cnc equipment wildly increases the capabilities
>>> of a space and such equipment is critical for almost any project with
>>> commercial potential. Also, steel is awesome and working with steel is even
>>> more awesome.
>>>
>>> However, I recognize that for people who do not want/need this equipment
>>> they do not want to pay the increased cost of a membership that reflects
>>> such increased capabilities. Providing cnc equipment requires at least a
>>> path to certification on the equipment and on site staff to supervise
>>> general during open shop hours. Additionally, it requires capital.
>>>
>>> This is exactly why I have been trying to reach out the EMS. I can sign
>>> on the lease for a 2500 sqft space, provide cnc equipment and staff the
>>> space (me). By partnering, EMS can mitigate almost every risk I have seen
>>> discussed in this lengthy email chain. For me, I can offset my cost of
>>> providing common space. In my mind a partnership would look something like:
>>>
>>> Swim Left Labs  : 1100 sqft dedicated
>>> EMS                   : 800  sqft dedicated
>>> Common Space : 600  sqft shared
>>>
>>> Notably, Swim Left Labs would be the lessee and EMS would simply be a
>>> member of Swim Left Labs. Swim Left Labs will have more manufacturing
>>> capabilities and a higher price tag for access to such capabilities. Such
>>> an arrangement gives a lot of flexibility to both EMS and Swim Left Labs as
>>> a whole.
>>>
>>> My only condition is that I am not interested on wavering on such a
>>> partnership for months. You folks know your organization and what you want
>>> out of it. I know what I want with Swim Left Labs and I am going to pursue
>>> that. However, there is a lot of middle ground and it is a waste to have 2
>>> competing spaces in town. I am going to make myself available this weekend
>>> to meet with anyone and everyone at EMS who is interested in partnering.
>>>
>>> Feel free to call me on my cell phone: 303-887-5015.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Eric Harvey
>>> President | Swim Left Products, LLC
>>> 303-887-5015
>>>
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