[EMS Discuss] Maker Space Tour Report

Mark Danburg-Wyld danburgwyld at gmail.com
Sun Mar 30 09:58:15 PDT 2014

Flux is a member dues type org, $50/month, plus $2/month if you're paying
online to cover the paypal fees. Desk rentals are $130/month, if I remember
correctly. They "feel" like a non-profit, but I didn't ask - she mentioned
she was also involved with a space I didn't visit, BrainSilo, which is
(like us) a 501(c)3 through School Factory. Another area I didn't ask, but
I got the impression Flux is in the barely-covering-the-rent phase - around
15 members, only one consistent desk rented.

ADX (for those who don't want to look it up themselves) starts at $50/month
for limited access, at which you also pay $40/day for shop access.
Alternatively, $125/month for evenings/weekends access or $175/month for
full-time access. Extra $250/month gets you a dedicated roughly 400 sq. ft.
for your own stuff. Like I said, geared very much more towards people using
it as a shop co-working space. There are classes and stuff, too, but it's a
spendy proposition.

On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Bob Miller <kbob at jogger-egg.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the report.  Did you ask either group about their financial
> arrangements?  ADX is for profit.  Its prices are on the web, and they
> are not cheap.  I don't know anything about Flux.
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Mark Danburg-Wyld
> <danburgwyld at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I was sorry to miss this morning's EMS improvement day. The reason was, I
> > spent the better part of yesterday and today up the street in Portland.
> > While there, I was able to tour a couple of other maker spaces, ADX
> > (http://www.adxportland.com) and Flux (http://fluxlab.io). I thought I'd
> > write up a few notes about each, in case it inspires any ideas for
> further
> > improving EMS. :-)
> >
> > ADX is a larger space, around 10,000 sq. ft. There's multiple sub-spaces
> > within there - a front reception area, a modeling/3D printing/laser
> > cutter/soldering area just off of that, together around 1000-1500 sq ft,
> > plus a coffee bar/lounge area with a separate door to the street (about
> > another 1500-2000 sq ft). The rest is straight shop. There's a good sized
> > wood shop, including a CNC that would easily fit a 4'x8' sheet of
> plywood,
> > bunch of standing tools, etc. The metal shop has numerous welding
> stations,
> > grind area, etc. I didn't get a good look at the interior of either shop,
> > just a view through the door. The rest of the shop space is sublet to
> > personal artisans - at least three dedicated 'studios'.
> >
> > The overall vibe is more of a co-working craftsman space. The person
> giving
> > us the tour said there are a fair number of 'hobby-ist' members as well,
> or
> > people who are primarily interested in learning to weld or whatever. But
> the
> > bulk of it seems to be people making a living out of the shop. The 3D
> > printing/laser cutting area looked a little under-utilized,
> comparatively -
> > when I was there, there were 4 or 5 people working in the wood area,
> no-one
> > in the metal shop, and two guys in the modeling area but just using it
> as a
> > hang-out space it looked like.
> >
> > Flux bills itself as a "feminist hackerspace", although open to anyone.
> It's
> > about 1,000 sq. ft., in a more or less office-space, on the second floor.
> > The layout is very open, mostly given over to a more lounge area, with
> > numerous rentable desks along the walls. There's a 3-D printer and a
> small
> > desktop CNC machine, plus a station of hand-tools and a soldering
> station.
> > We got to talk to one of the main organizers, Molly, for quite a while.
> She
> > said it's primarily used as a space for members to have events and to
> learn
> > skills. They have at least one other organization (Pixel Arts
> > (http://www.gameeducationpdx.com/)) that works out of the space,
> renting a
> > desk and when we were there using the space for a training session for
> new
> > volunteers. Beside the plethora of comfortable chairs and tables, they
> had a
> > pretty good sized library (mostly computer programming related, maybe a
> > third more crafts oriented, plus a good 10% random/other).
> >
> > I asked Molly what EMS might do to make our space more inviting to
> women, in
> > particular. She rattled off a number of ideas: smell, aesthetics, clear
> > labelling of tools, and having prominent & clear "no scoffing" and "no
> > asshole" rules. Smell doesn't mean perfumed, just if the space stinks of
> > stale beer and leftover pizza, that's a turn-off. The aesthetics piece is
> > mostly around cleanliness, although having things looks nice certainly
> can't
> > hurt. I was really struck by the idea about code of behavior - it can
> mean a
> > lot to walk in, knowing that even if you can't recall the name of
> something
> > that you're not going to be mocked for it. I encourage everyone to take a
> > look at Flux's STFU communication rules. It may not be what you initially
> > think from the acronym. :-)
> >
> > Any questions about particulars of either space, let me know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Bob Miller                              K<bob>
>                                         kbob at jogger-egg.com
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