<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">It's too far out for me Marie. As well as all of the new members I'm trying to attract who only use bicycles for transport.</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mr. Clif <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:clif@eugeneweb.com" target="_blank">clif@eugeneweb.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Ok cool,<br>
<br>
So lets take an informal poll to see how many think that 175 S Danebo wouldn't work for them and why.<br>
This is your opportunity for input folks! :-)<br>
<br>
    Thanks,<br>
    Clif<br>
<br>
<br>
Rick Osgood wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
This space sounds like a really good option for us.  I think personally I'd<br>
rather it be one large space rather than two separate buildings... but I do<br>
agree that there may be benefits of having clean/dirty areas completely<br>
separate.  Heating may be one huge benefit in the winter time.  Hang out in<br>
the warmer office space and only spend time in the cold when working on<br>
dirty projects.  The price is just at the edge of our affordable range too.<br>
  I'm excited about this.<br>
<br>
Personally, it's a bit farther away from my house but it's also just off<br>
the freeway so I can probably actually get there in about the same amount<br>
of time.  It's farther away from downtown which is unfortunate but maybe<br>
the trade off is worth it.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:55 PM, James Hukill<<a href="mailto:James@hukill.net" target="_blank">James@hukill.net</a>>  wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
The space is an upgrade from what we have.. but...<br>
The "shop" is not in the same space (Cliff already said this) which can be<br>
a good thing, loud messy projects wont interfere with anything going on in<br>
the heated/AC office spaces, where quieter things can happen.  The heat/ac<br>
is paid for by the owners on site, so we don't get to mess with it but<br>
don't have to pay for it either.  The rest of the outlets go on our own<br>
electric bill.<br>
That's the rub. there is only one 'big' room with the reception desk in<br>
the middle... meh take it out and patch the hole in the carpet good place<br>
for a conference room/meeting space.  There are at least 2 good solid<br>
offices with doors to rent and one other that would hold a few desk to have<br>
for library, study, few desk spaces etc..  There was a utility closet for<br>
server racks etc..<br>
<br>
Now back to the shop is HUGE.. with a upper storage area.  Just the shop<br>
is 2x our current floor plan, and the upper deck storage is jaw dropping<br>
compared to what we have now in fact just the upper deck feels about half<br>
as big as our current space.  A nice opportunity to have member storage<br>
space that is out of the way that no one would trip on and not eat up the<br>
'working space'.<br>
<br>
It's at the end of Beltline and West11th, so though not closer for anyone<br>
but Bob and I, it does feed into major arteries and have mass trans (bike<br>
paths too).<br>
<br>
I doubt the pictures do it justice but figured I would share some of my<br>
impressions too.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Mr. Clif<<a href="mailto:clif@eugeneweb.com" target="_blank">clif@eugeneweb.com</a>>  wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Yep they have a heat pump for the whole office building, but what that<br>
means is we can't muck with the thermostat or the receptionist will get<br>
very grumpy. ;-) Though the temp should be about right in the winter and<br>
the summer.<br>
<br>
Oh, strangly enough there are two 220 outlets in the reception room. They<br>
had some Uber espresso makers there a couple of tenets ago.<br>
<br>
     Clif<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="mailto:dperko@efn.org" target="_blank">dperko@efn.org</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
And everyone told me "Stay off the pole!"  If I only knew...<br>
<br>
This place looks like a pretty good price/performance compromise.<br>
  Though not convenient, it is not completely out of<br>
the question by bicycle and is directly on a bus line.<br>
<br>
A little fugly and I dislike that the office is not attached.  In the<br>
winter, however, it will be nice to be able to<br>
hang out in a not-freezing room.  Looks like the office has a heat pump,<br>
so for a lot of common activities we can be<br>
fairly comfortable.<br>
<br>
-Darrell<br>
<br>
  Relevant video:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=P-O8_Ja05Gs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?*<u></u>*v=P-O8_Ja05Gs</a><<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-O8_Ja05Gs" target="_blank">http://www.<u></u>youtube.com/watch?v=P-O8_<u></u>Ja05Gs</a>><br>

<br>
- Ben<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:30 PM, James Hukill<<a href="mailto:James@hukill.net" target="_blank">James@hukill.net</a>>   wrote:<br>
<br>
  Thanks for posting these Cliff.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
--James<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Mr. Clif<<a href="mailto:clif@eugeneweb.com" target="_blank">clif@eugeneweb.com</a>>   wrote:<br>
<br>
  This is currently the best option that I know of. There are a couple<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
of<br>
other places that I would like to see though. Here are the pictures:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.eugeneweb.com/****gallery2/v/clif/Geeky/EMS/175_**" target="_blank">http://www.eugeneweb.com/****<u></u>gallery2/v/clif/Geeky/EMS/175_<u></u>**</a><br>
**Danebo/<<a href="http://www.eugeneweb.com/**gallery2/v/clif/Geeky/EMS/175_**Danebo/" target="_blank">http://www.<u></u>eugeneweb.com/**gallery2/v/<u></u>clif/Geeky/EMS/175_**Danebo/</a>><br>
<<a href="http://www." target="_blank">http://www.</a>**<a href="http://eugeneweb.com/gallery2/v/clif/**Geeky/EMS/175_Danebo/" target="_blank">eugeneweb.com/<u></u>gallery2/v/clif/**Geeky/EMS/<u></u>175_Danebo/</a><<a href="http://www.eugeneweb.com/gallery2/v/clif/Geeky/EMS/175_Danebo/" target="_blank">http://www.<u></u>eugeneweb.com/gallery2/v/clif/<u></u>Geeky/EMS/175_Danebo/</a>><br>

      Ciao,<br>
      Clif<br>
<br>
Rick Osgood wrote:<br>
<br>
     From your description this space sounds pretty attractive!  Not<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
"perfect"<br>
but we will almost definnitely have to compromise somewhere.  The<br>
price<br>
is<br>
definitely in the ballpark range.  Thanks for checking it out, I look<br>
forward to seeing photos.-<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Mr. Clif<<a href="mailto:clif@eugeneweb.com" target="_blank">clif@eugeneweb.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
   Hi Guys,<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
So James and I saw 175 Danebo today. And it was very attractive. I<br>
still<br>
need to post the pictures but here is a quick summery.<br>
<br>
There is 2200 sqft of a kinda grungy car shop space with an<br>
additional<br>
550<br>
sqft of storage space some with shower stall sized "lockers". Also<br>
there is<br>
the possibility of dividing the shop space with a roll-up door that<br>
is<br>
there. There is lots of power in the shop, and they are willing to<br>
add a<br>
couple of 220 Outlets if we need them. The concrete floor has some<br>
big<br>
cracks and is not perfectly level, so don't trip on them. There is<br>
an<br>
adjoining bathroom for the shop but that may be the only sink for<br>
the<br>
shop<br>
area. This shop is not insulated and is on a separate electrical<br>
service so<br>
any space heater you put in it is money out the window. Eg we pay<br>
the<br>
power<br>
bill for the shop.<br>
<br>
You have to go outside to get to the office space but it's only<br>
50ish<br>
feet<br>
in the rain to get there. ;-) That space is about 1600 sqft divided<br>
up<br>
into<br>
four offices and a large reception area, plus a bathroom and<br>
storage /<br>
server room.  One office is quite large almost a community sized<br>
room<br>
at 16<br>
x 16, which maybe shared using three desks. The rent is $1445 plus a<br>
fixed<br>
$100 / mo for utils in the office space so that would be a total of<br>
$100 +<br>
the power bill in the shop in utils. We can run cat 5 through the<br>
celling<br>
Or perhaps use some of the mystery outlets that are already there.<br>
<br>
There are about 7 parking spaces in the back. It's definitely not<br>
close<br>
that close to anything, and probably not bike friendly though I<br>
could<br>
ride<br>
my bike there if I wanted some more exercise.<br>
<br>
I think Kevin said we could afford about $1000 a month in rent so<br>
about<br>
5<br>
of us would have to sign up for the extra until we had more members.<br>
<br>
       More later. :-)<br>
       Clif<br>
<br>
Rick Osgood wrote:<br>
<br>
   I am interested in looking at the spaces but like Sam I can't<br>
really<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
make<br>
it unless it's after 5:00PM or on the weekends.  Don't hold<br>
anything<br>
up on<br>
my account, but if you can ever get a viewing during those times<br>
I'm<br>
happy<br>
to come check things out.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Mr. Clif<<a href="mailto:clif@eugeneweb.com" target="_blank">clif@eugeneweb.com</a>><br>
  wrote:<br>
<br>
    Ok Meet me at 175 S. Danebo (Scientific Insterments) at 2:00<br>
PM. :-)<br>
<br>
         Clif<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
James Hukill wrote:<br>
<br>
    I am on that side of town so I can be there pretty quick..<br>
<br>
  Just let me know, as long as I am home by 4pm (kids school, bla<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
bla<br>
bla).<br>
<br>
--James<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Mr. Clif<<a href="mailto:clif@eugeneweb.com" target="_blank">clif@eugeneweb.com</a>><br>
   wrote:<br>
<br>
     Ok what is a good time for you James? I will check and see<br>
if the<br>
correct<br>
<br>
   person is around then.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Thanks for checking in Marie, and Bob. I think that for the<br>
first<br>
pass<br>
we<br>
want to see them as fast as we can and if you are available<br>
that is<br>
great,<br>
or you can also pick a place to look at on your own time frame<br>
and<br>
invite<br>
others to go with you. For the second pass we should definitely<br>
schedule<br>
it<br>
a few days to a week in advance and try to get as many folks as<br>
possible<br>
to<br>
go.<br>
<br>
Also I just drove by this place which I think is next to the<br>
silk<br>
screen<br>
or embroidery ladies place:<br>
<br>
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It's upstairs so that might be a show stopper, not sure if the<br>
office<br>
space in the picture is part of that or not because that part<br>
seems<br>
to<br>
be<br>
downstairs.<br>
<br>
         Ciao!<br>
         Clif<br>
<br>
<br>
James Hukill wrote:<br>
<br>
     I am in.<br>
<br>
   Sent from my iPad<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:42 AM, "Mr. Clif"<<a href="mailto:clif@eugeneweb.com" target="_blank">clif@eugeneweb.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
      Hi Marie, and gang,<br>
<br>
    We can view the 175 S. Danebo space anytime today before<br>
4:00<br>
PM. I'm<br>
<br>
  checking on some others as well. What time works for you guys?<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I'm also wondering if I should just be contacting the people<br>
interested<br>
in the space search off list. I'm thinking those folks might<br>
be<br>
Marie,<br>
Sam,<br>
Craig, James, and Bob. Though that is just wishful thinking,<br>
Marie is<br>
the<br>
only one so far who really said she was into it.<br>
<br>
What do you guys think?<br>
<br>
         Clif<br>
<br>
<br>
Marie Slatton-Valle wrote:<br>
<br>
     Thanks for answering those questions Cliff.  Count me in<br>
for<br>
the<br>
next<br>
<br>
   and<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
future building visits or related meetings.<br>
<br>
As far as shared spaces I know our group is open to sharing<br>
space.<br>
    I<br>
think<br>
Makerspace would be a good mix as there is a lot of overlap<br>
with<br>
the<br>
noise<br>
factor (industrial sewing machines) and other space<br>
requirements;<br>
not<br>
to<br>
mention the current trends in fashion design with 3-D<br>
printing<br>
and<br>
etextiles.  I will bring it up at our next meeting this<br>
Friday.<br>
<br>
Marie<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Mr. Clif<<a href="mailto:clif@eugeneweb.com" target="_blank">clif@eugeneweb.com</a><br>
     wrote:<br>
<br>
      Hi Marie,<br>
<br>
    here are some answers as I personally see them:<br>
<br>
  Marie Slatton-Valle wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
      I'm down to help on location scouting.  I've been<br>
scouting<br>
similarly<br>
<br>
    sized<br>
<br>
  locations for a garment production house and often think of<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
EMS.<br>
<br>
I looked over the space ratings doc in the wiki and just<br>
have a<br>
few<br>
questions.  1) Does EMS only want month-to-month leases or<br>
is<br>
something a<br>
little longer acceptable?<br>
<br>
     Yes we did have a six month lease on our current<br>
space, and<br>
our<br>
<br>
   current<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
draft proposal for a new space involves a 12 month lease.<br>
<br>
<br>
          2) Does EMS need to be in an industrial zone or<br>
<br>
     is a commercial space okay?<br>
<br>
      Commercial is slightly preferable because it usually<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
implies a<br>
<br>
   store<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
front<br>
with display windows and a bit more foot traffic. However,<br>
the<br>
trade-off is<br>
that the cost per square foot is higher, and often more<br>
than we<br>
can<br>
afford.<br>
<br>
<br>
         3) What is meant by noise limits on the space<br>
<br>
     ratings doc?<br>
<br>
      Well we have noisy shop tools like grinders and say, a<br>
book<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
store<br>
<br>
   or<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
quiet<br>
office park might not like that. ;-)<br>
<br>
<br>
       That's all I can think of for now.<br>
Thanks for your help! It would be cool if a few of us could<br>
form an<br>
informal group that looked at properties together. I'm<br>
interested<br>
in<br>
scheduling a visit to the danebo place next week. Are you<br>
interested?<br>
<br>
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about<br>
Makerspaces as a business model?  Really solid, solid info.<br>
<br>
     Right... I should read that. :-)<br>
<br>
       Let me know what I can do to help.  Definitely down<br>
to<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
scope<br>
out a<br>
few<br>
<br>
    places.<br>
<br>
      So if you're looking for a sewing place would you be<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
interested<br>
in<br>
<br>
   sharing<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
with EMS?? :-)<br>
<br>
      Marie<br>
          Clif<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Rick Osgood<<br>
<a href="mailto:rick@richardosgood.com" target="_blank">rick@richardosgood.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
      While things may have calmed down around EMS lately<br>
since<br>
everyone<br>
has<br>
<br>
    been out enjoying the summer weather, we are still<br>
looking<br>
for a<br>
<br>
  new<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
   home<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
to support our growing membership.  Looking at the survey<br>
results<br>
from<br>
the<br>
member poll, the top three voted locations for EMS would<br>
be:<br>
<br>
Downtown Eugene followed by East Eugene or West Eugene<br>
(pretty<br>
much<br>
a tie<br>
on those two)<br>
<br>
The top features our members would like to see in a new<br>
space<br>
are:<br>
<br>
1. Larger shop space (we currently have 1000sqft)<br>
2. The ability to subdivide the space to separate<br>
activities<br>
3. Larger office space for quiet/cleaner activities<br>
4. Within walking distance of local community<br>
<br>
We could really use help trying to find a space.  Our<br>
monthly<br>
budget<br>
for<br>
a<br>
new space will likely be between $1000 and $1300 per<br>
month.<br>
   That<br>
will<br>
require us to stretch our wallets when possible to make it<br>
happen.<br>
      We<br>
have<br>
a really nicely written proposal that includes clauses to<br>
ramp up<br>
the<br>
rent<br>
and utilities costs over time, which means we might be<br>
able to<br>
get<br>
away<br>
with something more expensive than this if we can grow our<br>
member<br>
base to<br>
match the rent increases.<br>
<br>
Keep in mind we may have to compromise on some of the<br>
features.<br>
     For<br>
example it will likely cost more to have more space, but<br>
it<br>
may<br>
also<br>
cost<br>
more to be downtown.  We may have to make a trade off on<br>
space<br>
versus<br>
location.  If you can find a place that meets some<br>
variation<br>
of<br>
these<br>
criteria, please email <a href="mailto:board@eugenemakerspace.com" target="_blank">board@eugenemakerspace.com</a> and<br>
let us<br>
know!<br>
      We<br>
will get in touch with the owners and send them our<br>
proposal.<br>
      Hopefully<br>
having more people look for a space means we can find one<br>
more<br>
quickly.<br>
<br>
Thanks for you help!<br>
<br>
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