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    Yes very true James,<br>
    <br>
    this is why we are moving. Look toward the future. ;-) I would be
    happy to have a sponsor James, and I think some competition would be
    great as a sponsored activity. However it should be at our shop and
    ideally it should bring more people there. Now, I'll admit I've been
    more interested in applying for grants than looking for sponsors
    that is my bias. I have even done some quick googles for grants we
    might qualify for when I was board, but currently landing a new
    space takes most of my time. However I now know of two grant writers
    in our community that might be available to help if we ask them
    nicely.<br>
    <br>
        Clif<br>
    <br>
    On 10/20/2013 11:27 AM, James Hukill wrote:
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      <div dir="ltr">I would be shocked if anyone wants to use our
        current space as a meeting room and pay for it.
        <div><br>
          <div style="">So if you don't like the idea of having a
            meeting at a sponsor site, how about an event or competition
            of some sort?  Fastest beer chilling contraption or beer
            pouring bot?  What are your limits for what EMS would do or
            with a sponsor?  </div>
          <div style="">I get you don't want one but there are possible
            enough members that do so what the middle ground?</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Mr.
          Clif <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:clif@eugeneweb.com" target="_blank">clif@eugeneweb.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> I'm thinking instead
              of holding our meetings somewhere else and asking for
              sponsorship how about renting out our meeting room and
              getting extra money for that from other groups each month?
              That might even bring in more money and certainly get
              people down to our actual space not somewhere else.<span
                class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
                  <br>
                      Clif</font></span>
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                  <br>
                  On 10/20/2013 11:14 AM, James Hukill wrote:
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                    <div dir="ltr">I totally agree that (IMHO) we
                      can/should seek some sponsorship.  The topic has
                      come up before and there are some senior members
                      with valid points about making sure it's done
                      tastefully.  The example (to take it to the
                      extreme for the point) is they do not want the
                      shop to look like NSCAR.  I get that 100% and
                      agree.  There has to be some middle ground though.
                      <div> <br>
                      </div>
                      <div>But, cart before the horse?.. When do we wait
                        if at all to ask for some sponsorship?  What do
                        we have to offer in return? Do we do it before
                        we move?</div>
                      <div>Simple example would be something like
                        HopValley or Ninkasi.  We offerer to hold our
                        membership meetings on site with them.  Most of
                        us go and and have a drink now and again so
                        might as well spend it with them.  They give EMS
                        money and in return they know we will be onsite
                        for a member meeting once a month that will
                        bring them in x amount of $$.  Stickers at the
                        shop with their logo, and or some type of
                        newsletter with their logo name as a Sponsor... </div>
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                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at
                        10:51 AM, Austin McKimmey <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:amckimmey@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">amckimmey@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">I feel like we have discussed
                            membership cost increasing many times
                            before. I don't think it has ever ended in
                            any actual consideration to change anything
                            though. There are some of us, me included in
                            not embarrassed to say, that $25 is a hell
                            of a lot to pay already. There would have to
                            be a much larger space and brand new shiny
                            tools there for me to consider paying any
                            more.<br>
                            <br>
                            <div>Everyone has heard me say this before.
                              I personally think, if we have a
                              presentable space. Not something full of
                              junk and rusty tools. We could start
                              asking for sponsorship funding from local
                              businesses.<br>
                              <br>
                              There is a lot we can do.</div>
                            <span><font color="#888888">
                                <div>Austin</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">
                              <div>On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:06 AM,
                                James Hukill <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:James@hukill.net"
                                    target="_blank">James@hukill.net</a>></span>
                                wrote:<br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">I agree, but, there
                                      has to be some value add for the
                                      increase dues.  Bigger space with
                                      more room and not a project dump
                                      (aka bike cart overdue for going
                                      away) site is a start.
                                      <div> We might chase folks away
                                        and there are some current
                                        members that the current dues
                                        are already at their max.  The
                                        idea of some shop work credit
                                        has been thrown about but I
                                        never heard what he board had to
                                        say about it(?).  If you are at
                                        your max dues then you have open
                                        and close the open house nights
                                        or other shop duties,  well lets
                                        be honest chores for lack of a
                                        better term.  The shit no one
                                        wants to due but needs to get
                                        done and if that helps you stay
                                        in at a price you can afford I
                                        am all for that.<br>
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                                      <div><br>
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                                      <div>
                                        <div>But more to the point you
                                          were working on. Better tools,
                                          toys and resources for current
                                          and a draw for future members.
                                           IMHO I think a new space will
                                          breed some new enthusiasm into
                                          the shop and might bring some
                                          life back into EMS.. who
                                          knows... </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Is there a list of tools we
                                        want/need anymore?  It used to
                                        be on the whiteboard and was
                                        supposed to get transferred to a
                                         inventory system that was going
                                        online?  That I was Kassandra I
                                        think.  Do we have a location
                                        for groups projects and their
                                        status?</div>
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                                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                                        <div>On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at
                                          9:49 AM, Cord Slatton <span
                                            dir="ltr"><<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:cord42@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank">cord42@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                          wrote:<br>
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                                            <div dir="ltr">Recently
                                              Marie came across an
                                              article that explained
                                              Makerspaces and their
                                              costs and gave a range of
                                              services etc. for a
                                              variety of areas and
                                              uses...The lowest
                                              membership dues even
                                              listed were $35/month.
                                              Maybe we need to increase
                                              our dues just slightly to
                                              give us more flexibility
                                              and to allow us to invest
                                              in ourselves and have
                                              better equipment and a
                                              better location.</div>
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